Hello, hello, hello, hello, hello. Welcome to the naughty for nice, I'm your host, Rampstutti, and I'm your host, Rampshooter, and it is, which means our dear friend, Mark Lupo, joins us. Hey, Loopy, are you there?

Loopy Lewis here, hey Rob. Hey, Lupi, I like the change of locations. So while we record these shows, we can see each other over Zoom. And normally I look out over your beautiful, beautiful, I think it's a park that you look over, Mark. It's so green. Today we're in the, is it a purple room? Oh, I like this room. We're in the office today. It's a dark blue background with a nice gallery wall on the back. Yeah. That's nice. Mark, honestly, if ever this podcasting business does not work out for you, I think it will.

But if it doesn't, go into interior design. You could be one of the queer eyes. Like, you really could be one of those. It looks great. Thank you, thank you. Looks great. Okay, let's jump into the show. My time, is it my friends at all? Tea time. Big story at the top of the show. So Netflix is basically telling Gillian Michael's a beringet.

Let me explain. Tea time. Big story at the top of the show. So Netflix is basically telling Gillian Michaels a bring it.

Let me explain. Jillian Michaels is very angry with Netflix because they have a new documentary act.

It's a great documentary. It's called Fit for TV, the Reality of the Biggest Loser. Well, if you remember, the biggest loser was a massive show. Very,

very popular. However, it has not aged well. If you look at a few clips, the episodes have sort of

disappeared, but there are some clips. They really bullied people who were overweight. They

fat, shamed people. It's just the opposite of how you deal with any conversation about size, about weight.

We've changed.

And I think as a society, that's a good thing.

I remember 20 years ago laughing at American Idol making fun of a clearly mentally disabled person when they went to audition. Remember William Holmes? She bangs. She bangs. It was really funny. The whole nation laughed him. Remember Susan Boyo? Oh my goodness. We were so cruel to her. We were like gladiators like, kill her. Kill her. And then suddenly she sang and we were like, oh, it's okay now because she's got a pretty voice. We like you now, Susan, because you can sing. But before she sang, we were like, boo, she's disgusting. She's awful. I mean, we went crazy. Well, the biggest loser has this legacy. I would argue housewives are not going to stand a fever, but in a few years,

wait and sick. So the biggest loser, not a great show now. We all watched it. We all enjoyed it

back then. A terrible show, let's be honest. Well, they've done a documentary about it,

and it's a really telling documentary. It really, really digs into those fears that we now know

are true about the show.

Gillian was offered a place on the documentary. Do you want to be interviewed? She passed.

She wanted no part of it. Well, now it's aired. She doesn't like what they said. So she's

threatening a lawsuit. Let me explain everybody. TV does not just happen.

You don't just throw something upon TV.

It takes months and months, maybe years, of production, of pre-production, of editing.

And then before anything goes on the air, there's lawyers there.

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