Exclusive: ‘Killing Russians is fun’ – First ever interview with a Ukrainian resistance leader
Ukraine: The Latest
Louisa Wells / Francis Dearnley
4.8 • 2.7K Ratings
🗓️ 23 April 2026
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
Day 1,519.
Today, in a global first, we bring you an exclusive interview with a leading member of Ukraine’s resistance movement operating inside Russian-occupied territory. We also give you updates as President Zelensky arrives in Cyprus met with confirmation that the European Union has not only formally approved the €90 billion loan for Ukraine, but also a 20th package of sanctions against Russia. We report on Ukrainian strikes against a major Russian counterintelligence unit, before examining how the US military has begun deploying Ukrainian counter-drone technology at an air base in Saudi Arabia to defend against Iran.
Contributors:
Francis Dearnley (Host on Ukraine: The Latest). @FrancisDearnley on X.
Dominic Nicholls (Host on Ukraine: The Latest). @DomNicholls on X.
With thanks to Petro of the Ukrainian resistance, and Dr Jade McGlynn and the Centre for Statecraft and National Security at King’s College London for assisting with this interview.
NOW IN FULL VIDEO WITH MAPS & BATTLEFIELD FOOTAGE:
Every episode is now available on our YouTube channel shortly after the release of the audio version. You will find it here: https://www.youtube.com/@UkraineTheLatest
CONTENT REFERENCED:
Dom’s Video Interview: ‘Inside the Ukrainian resistance in Russia’s occupied territories’:
My grandfather ended Stalinism – now Putin has labelled me a ‘foreign agent’ (Iona Cleave in The Telegraph):
US turns to Ukrainian counter-drone tech after Iran attacks, sources say (Reuters):
Russia could be ready for NATO conflict year after Ukraine, Dutch warn (Defense News):
Public Annual Report 2025 Military Intelligence and Security Service (Dutch Intelligence):
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HIGHLIGHTS:
- First ever interview with a Ukrainian resistance leader
- Updates as Zelensky finally gets EU’s €90bn loan
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| 0:00.0 | The Telegraph. |
| 0:09.3 | I'm Domnickles and this is Ukraine the latest. |
| 0:13.0 | Today, as President Zelensky arrives in Cyprus to attend the European Union summit, |
| 0:17.3 | he lands to hear the news that the EU has formally approved the 90 billion euro loan |
| 0:21.9 | and the 20th package of sanctions against Russia. He also hears that his troops have hit a major |
| 0:27.9 | Russian counterintelligence unit and more Russian oil refineries have decided to self-sanction. |
| 0:34.0 | We report how the US military has introduced Ukrainian counter-drone technology to an air base in Saudi Arabia. |
| 0:39.6 | I hope they're remembered to say thank you. |
| 0:41.6 | And in a global first, we look at our exclusive interview with a leading member of Ukraine's resistance movement. |
| 0:48.7 | bravery takes you through the most unimaginable hardships to finally reward you with victory. |
| 0:58.0 | The Russia does not want peace. |
| 1:00.0 | First, we're in our help for the Ukraine, |
| 1:03.0 | also our freedom and our European Writers. |
| 1:08.0 | If I'm president, I will have that war settled in one day, 24 hours. |
| 1:12.3 | We are with you, not just today or tomorrow, but for a hundred years. |
| 1:17.1 | We can't as European, let's gain the Russia in Ukraine. |
| 1:21.6 | Nobody's going to break us. We're strong. We're Ukrainians. |
| 1:27.7 | It's Thursday, the 23rd of April, four years and 58 days since the full-scale invasion began. |
| 1:33.2 | And today I'm joined by my co-host, Francis Dernley. |
| 1:36.4 | I'll start with the military updates. |
| 1:40.9 | Let's go to the north of the country, first of all, still very active in the area of Sumi between there and up and along the border. |
| 1:47.7 | Geolocated footage from the Ossin site Ukraine Daily Update says that on Tuesday, Chechen fighters from the Akmat group, they're fighting for Russia. |
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