Hello, hello, hello, hello, welcome to the naughty but night show. I'm your host Rob Shooter. It's Thursday, so our friend Mark Lupo joins us. Hey,

Lupi. Are you there? Hey, Rob. Hello, my friend. How are you? It's been a busy, busy week

of gossip, so let's jump right in Mark. What time is it? It is tea time. Big exclusive at the top

of the show. So Kate Middleton and Megan Markle still have not spoken post the

bombshell Oprah Winfrey interview. It's no secret that Harry and William's relationship is very,

very strained and it has been for some time. However, post- Oprah, the boys, did have a conversation. It didn't go so well,

but they did talk. My sources are telling me that Kate and Megan have had zero, zero contact.

Sources tell me the following quote, Kate's biggest fear is that Megan will reveal the content

of anything she says. There's absolutely no trust there now after what Megan did with Oprah,

and it's clear that Megan does share, she will share, private conversations with reporters and TV personalities.

This makes it very, very difficult to move forward.

Kate would pick up the phone in a second if she thought she could help mend this relationship.

But she is frightened that the private call, the conversation could be leaked to the press,

and that doesn't help anyone.

Mark, is this a valid concern?

Oh, my gosh, Rob, this is a totally valid concern, especially after Oprah's friend,

Gal King leaked more information about the family. So it's like, I would think to myself,

is everything I'm saying going to be recorded, to be going to be transcribed? Like, I would

never call them, ever. Have you got acribed. Like, I would never call them ever.

Have you got a friend that just, you thought you were having a private conversation, and they've got loose lips. And I like gossipy friends because it's what I do for a living. So I do like it myself. But when I've got something really secret, Mark, with you, I've said, Mark, this is top secret. Don't tell anybody. You're a vault. You don't tell anybody anything.

I'm a little bit more loose lip than you, but I've got to say, when it's a real secret, I can hold one? Can you? I can hold one, but I do have a friend who, when I want to strategically use them to release information, I'll tell them a secret, quote unquote, knowing that it will be released to the whole public. Oh, is it Donne? Is it Delano?

Who is it Donne? Is it Delana? Who is this friend? I can't name him or her, but it's not Donnie or it's not, and it's not Delano. You're that strategic when you want something released. So if you've got a piece of information that you want out there, you tell this friend, and you don't tell them to tell everybody, but you know they're going to.

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