Could this turn British politics upside down? I'm talking of course about the new party,

which has been launched by the former leader of the Labour Party, Jeremy Corbyn, and the former Labour

MPs, Arsultana. I'm here in Finsby Park, this is Jeremy Corbyn's constituency, to talk to

the man about what the party's all about, what it's going to do. I guess some of the attack

lines against it, will this let farage in?

We're going to hear a lot of that from Labour saying vote for us otherwise that's what's going to

happen. I want to talk about his own genocide, about the complicity of the British government,

what it means for politics. I want to talk about quite a few things about just the state of a country really,

which is a bit of a burning skip at the moment, let's be honest. Lots to talk to about. Let's go

talk to Jeremy, this is really speaking because I interviewed literally exactly 10 years ago here.

It was the beginning of all was 2015. In this table. I think it was, I see this table.

That was in the background.

It's changed a bit.

The trees have got bigger. Oh yeah. It's nice. It's a beautiful little park. I'm glad we're here again. It's a lovely day. I want to put your Pundit hat on, or your historian hat. Because in that last 10 years has been just globally, little bit of a roller coaster. So when I interviewed you, it's before Brexit, it's before all the

political turmoil there, Bosch Johnson and List Dross and all that. Trump, it was before the pandemic, it was before the US defeat in Afghanistan, it was before the general rise of the far right, it was before the evasive Ukraine, and it was before Israel's genocide. I mean, you kind of look at it, the people. The world has kind of gone to shit.

You do think it has. I think it's much worse than it was 10 years ago, because you've got

greater poverty and inequality in this country, greater inequality globally, advancing environmental

problems around the world, and now, which is possibly the most serious factor,

is increasing rearmament all around the world. So you've got global arms spending last year

$2.4 trillion, this year maybe $2.7, going up and up. Every country in the world is spending more on weapons.

And I don't know if you remember it last year we produced a book called De Montser's Anger of the Guns,

which is about the profits of the arms trade.

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