EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: Juror Who Thought Lori Was Innocent, and the Text that Changed Everything

Hidden: A True Crime Podcast

Hidden True Crime

True Crime, Society & Culture, News Commentary, Documentary, News

4.8 • 1.9K Ratings

🗓️ 29 April 2025

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Lauren is joined by Carl, a juror in the latest trial of Lori Vallow Daybell to discuss why he thought she was innocent, and the texts that changed everything for him. About Hidden True Crime: What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling. Rula patients typically pay $15 per session when using insurance.Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at https://www.rula.com/hidden #rulapod Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrime Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Exclusively on Disney Plus.
0:02.1	I'm Rebecca. I'm Josephine's mom.
0:03.8	I'm Elisa.
0:04.6	Can I go over to Josie's house to play?
0:06.4	She met a new friend and puff.
0:07.9	She's gone.
0:09.0	An ordinary play date.
0:10.5	The missing child is Lucia Blix.
0:12.4	Nine years old.
0:13.4	Is about to become every parent's nightmare.
0:16.3	The people who took Lucia plund it meticulously.
0:19.9	She's hiding something.
0:21.1	I know it.
0:21.8	The Stolen Girl.
0:23.0	A new original series.
0:24.4	Streaming April 16th exclusively on Disney Plus.
0:27.5	18 plus subscription required.
0:29.0	T's and Cs apply.
0:29.9	We have a very special guest today.
0:34.6	I'm so grateful, Carl, that you trusted me and hidden to crime to talk about your
0:40.8	experience as a juror on the Lori Valladebel case. And we are going to simply call you Carl.
0:46.5	We're going to leave your last name out of this so that you can have some privacy. You are a
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