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Glad to be with you this week or I guess post week, the 4th of July, where a little less

news of the day and we can sit down with experts, people who really know their field well and

are making a big difference.

We were introduced actually by a good friend of mine, Dr. Jordan Peterson.

You can follow him on Twitter at Bjorn Lumbor.

I'll have that bottom lower third because to White Americans it's probably hard to spell.

He has a book out here, Best Things First, the 12 most efficient solutions to the world's

poorest and our global SDG promises.

This is a man who discusses climate change quite a bit, has studied it.

And I would say it takes a pretty reasonable approach, rational approach, will agree on some,

disagree on others.

Regarding solutions going forward, Mr. Lumborg, thanks for being here, sir.

It's great to be here, Steve.

I'm, well look, come on, let's not lay it on too thick from the outset.

It's okay.

So, let me call you Steve and though.

Yes, that's true, thank you.

Yeah, I was telling him before we started filming here that my mother named me Stephen because

she was okay with the nickname Steve.

It was the only nickname and then she decided that she hated the nickname Steve.

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