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Exclusive: Here's How Much OpenAI Spends On Inference And Its MSFT Revenue Share

Better Offline

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4.6687 Ratings

🗓️ 12 November 2025

⏱️ 7 minutes

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Summary

In a Better Offline exclusive, Ed Zitron reveals how much OpenAI spent on inference in 2024 and 2025, as well as how much it paid Microsoft as part of its 20% revenue share. Inference costs are much higher - and implied revenues much lower - than previously reported.

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The Information - OpenAI’s First Half Results: $4.3 Billion in Sales, $2.5 Billion Cash Burn - https://www.theinformation.com/articles/openais-first-half-results-4-3-billion-sales-2-5-billion-cash-burn?rc=kz8jh3 

The Information (reference to $6bn inference spend) - http://theinformation.com/articles/openai-forecasts-revenue-topping-125-billion-2029-agents-new-products-gain?rc=kz8jh3

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.5

Guaranteed human.

0:06.7

Hello and welcome to a very special episode of BetRofLine.

0:12.1

I'm of course your host, Ed Zetron.

0:18.9

For years, I've been hunting down the core details behind OpenAI's costs and revenues,

0:26.5

and today I'm going to bring you some of them.

0:28.9

A lot of what I say today is going to be reflected in my newsletter, which I'll link to in the notes.

0:33.3

Based on documents viewed by my newsletter, I'm able to report OpenAI's inference spend on Microsoft Azure,

0:39.1

in addition to its payments to Microsoft as part of its 20% revenue share agreement,

0:43.1

which was reported in October 2024 by the information.

0:46.4

In simple terms, that last bit means that Microsoft receives 20% of OpenAI's revenue,

0:51.1

in addition to whatever it spends on GPUs and servers.

0:55.8

As a reminder,

0:59.5

inferences the process through which a model creates an output, which I'll be reminding you of a few times, because it's actually kind of important. Now, a few notes. I don't have

1:04.9

OpenAI's training spend, nor do I have information on the entire extent of OpenAI's revenues,

1:10.1

as it appears that Microsoft shares

1:11.6

some percentage of its revenue from Bing, as well as 20% of the revenue Microsoft receives

1:16.0

from selling OpenAI's models on this year. What I do have, as I've mentioned, is its inference

1:21.7

spend. And if you're new to this, like I said, this means all the computations OpenAI does

1:26.6

when processing requests sent to its

1:28.0

services like ChatGPT and SORA. Now, before publishing, I asked the Financial Times reporter to help corroborate

1:34.5

some of the data in the documents. They reached out to Microsoft and OpenAI, who both declined to comment.

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