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The News Agents - USA

Exclusive: George Santos on Trump's get out of jail free pass

The News Agents - USA

Global

News, Government, Politics

4.3719 Ratings

🗓️ 22 October 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Former Republican congressman George Santos was jailed for wire fraud and identity theft and began his 7 year sentence in the summer. On Friday, after a mere 87 days, it was commuted - by the president - and Santos walked free.

Today he gives us the first UK interview since his commutation to explain his crimes, his appeal for clemency, and what it tells us about Trump's America in 2025.

Later, what on earth is going on in the east wing of the White House?

The News Agents USA is brought to you by HSBC UK - https://www.hsbc.co.uk/

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0:00.0

The Newsagents USA Podcast is brought to you by HSBC, UK, opening up a world of opportunity.

0:09.6

This is a global player original podcast. And what about George Santos?

0:15.9

Boy. He just went away, seven years. You know, he was, he lied like hell.

0:22.5

I mean, I have to take.

0:23.5

Yeah.

0:23.9

And I didn't know him, but he was 100% for Trump.

0:28.5

That is Donald Trump, explaining why he has just commuted the seven-year sentence of a former

0:36.6

congressman, George Santos, imprisoned for fraud.

0:41.2

We have the first UK broadcast interview with George Santos coming up.

0:46.2

He was imprisoned for seven years. After Donald Trump's intervention, he only served three months of that seven-year sentence.

0:58.0

Is that what justice looks like in America? Just suck up to Donald Trump and you walk free.

1:04.2

Welcome to the Newsagents USA.

1:07.5

The Newsagents USA with Emily Maitliss and John Sopal.

1:12.1

It's John. It's Emily. And you might remember George Santos, who has been on the newsagents in the past.

1:20.0

We interviewed him last in January on inauguration day, on a very cold January afternoon in Washington, D.C.

1:28.9

And at that point, he was awaiting trial.

1:33.4

He was subsequently convicted, and he was given the maximum sentence, seven years,

1:40.2

for what was essentially aggravated identity theft, fraud, deception.

1:45.7

He started to serve that seven-year sentence, but he wrote a letter to Donald Trump.

1:52.1

And in that letter, he professed his loyalty, his fealty, his devotion, his admiration for the president.

2:04.7

And on Friday night, unbeknown to George Santos, his sentence was suddenly commuted, not pardoned, but commuted. In other words,

2:13.1

George Santos was told he would walk free and the amount of money that he owed to all the people that he had defrauded was wiped clean.

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