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Excerpt - Richard Seymour responds to listeners' questions

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🗓️ 25 January 2025

⏱️ 3 minutes

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Richard returns to answer more questions - including on the Gaza ceasefire, bible study in American schools, and what might be learned from Mexico's Morena party.

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0:00.0

So our questioner asks, much as historically been made in liberal media circles about the teaching of the Bible in American public schools.

0:07.7

People will be taught religious history instead of scientific history, and the politics of the evangelical right will grow ever stronger with their massing legions of true believers.

0:16.5

But doesn't this apocalyptic perspective imply that teachers necessarily teach in a literal, anti-critical manner? And isn't there plenty of writing in the Bible that can imply

0:24.6

a left-wing redistributive politics? For example, the famous line,

0:28.9

it is easier for a camel to fit into the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into

0:33.3

heaven. While religious control over schools and the accompanying book banning is very scary,

0:38.2

is the essential problem not what particular texts are taught, but rather how they are taught.

0:43.0

I'd love to hear your thoughts. Look, obviously I agree, or at least sympathise with the

0:47.2

question as sort of, I agree with where they're going. Yes, it's true that the first Christians

0:52.9

were refractory communists. Yes, it's true that the first Christians were refractory communists. Yes, it's true

0:55.8

that the New Testament is laden with class politics. I almost said the new statesman is laden

1:01.2

with class politics. That would have been a big mistake. I think it's true, just not the class

1:04.8

politics we'd like. Mary's Magnificat from the Gospel of Luke actually goes a bit further than the line from Matthew

1:13.7

that the questioner quotes.

1:15.7

It may have been a Christian theologian, Gregory of Niso, who was the first to produce

1:20.5

an uncompromising critique of slavery.

1:22.8

Obviously, there is something scandalous and subversive in Christian doxa, which still retains a faint power of critique and rebellion today, despite official Christianity centuries of accommodation with empire and Mamun and what have you. But is that really what's at issue here? Because I don't think this is actually about teaching the Bible. You know, if it was, I would say, well, all right,

1:45.3

but why not also the Quran, the Upanishads, you know, the Torah? Why simply impose Bible reading?

1:51.2

But that's not what it is. When they invent Bible-based curricula, as in Texas, you have to notice

1:56.7

that it comes with a series of revisionist materials on, say, American national history pertaining

2:01.7

to race, slavery, and civil rights. The goal is white nationalist, not biblical. And putting the Ten

2:08.4

commandments on the walls of every classroom, as in Louisiana, what does that have to do with

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