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Excerpt - Israel's technosolutionism w/ Sophia Goodfriend

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🗓️ 18 November 2023

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A 'start-up country', the world's first 'AI superpower', an 'innovation nation', those are some of the breathless descriptions used by Israeli politicians, security officials, journalists and business leaders to hail Israel's high-tech industry and its synergy with the Israeli military. But on October 7th, Israel's obsession with what Sophia Goodfriend describes as 'techno-solutionism' came back to haunt the country as Hamas succeeded in breaching the Gaza barrier at eighty different points and disabling many of Israel's automated weapons and surveillance systems. In today's episode of PTO Extra! I spoke with Sophia about her recent articles in The Baffler and Foreign Policy regarding Israel's high-tech methods of waging war and how it conducts its illegal and brutal occupation of the West Bank and Gaza.

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In your recent article for The Baffler, you describe how in late September, Israeli military

0:05.2

representatives took Admiral Rob Bauer, the chair of NATO's military committee, on a tour of

0:11.0

Israel's security architecture around Gaza, showing him the Gaza-Israel barrier, the IDF's automated

0:18.1

weaponry and various surveillance systems. Ten days after that tour, Hamas militants launched Operation Alaksa Flood

0:24.8

and breached the Gaza fence in more than 80 places

0:27.4

and then killed hundreds of Israeli soldiers and civilians.

0:30.9

Can you describe what Bauer would have seen on that tour

0:33.4

and what Israel's security systems around Gaza consisted of prior to October 7th?

0:39.5

Israel's security systems around Gaza have, since the blockade began,

0:44.3

have been heralded as one of the world's most advanced

0:46.9

and technologically sophisticated security and surveillance apparatus.

0:51.3

So Bauer would have seen now in 2023 a whole different set of automated surveillance

0:58.5

systems. This includes cameras, biometric cameras. There's sensors that go underneath the ground,

1:05.9

aerial sensors that can sense objects moving above ground, sensors that go out into the sea to detect any sort of

1:12.3

movement in the sea. In recent years, they've implemented automated jeeps that can patrol the

1:18.5

territory. They have automated machine gun turrets in sniper outposts that can shoot without

1:24.2

having any soldiers actually deployed in those towers. It's really kind of the

1:28.4

fantasy of militarism and the age of AI. It's a whole host of automated surveillance systems,

1:33.9

automated weaponry. There's automated drones and automated drone swarms that patrol the area as well.

1:40.1

And the actual events was about a $1.1 billion endeavor just because of how high-tech the systems actually are.

1:48.0

It was a huge amount of resources.

1:49.9

It had, I think, one military general boasted that there was enough concrete to pave a road from Israel to Bulgaria that was put into the wall.

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