Examining The Divisions Within Israel

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🗓️ 9 November 2023

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Before the war between Israel and Hamas, it sometimes looked as if Israel might be headed toward a civil war. At least that's what New York Times correspondent Isabel Kershner thought. She covers Israeli and Palestinian politics and society and has been covering the current war. A few months before the war, she published a book about divisions within Israel resulting from ideological, religious, ethnic, and generational differences, and how those differences help explain Israel's shift to the right. Her book is called The Land of Hope and Fear: Israel's Battle for Its Inner Soul.

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0:32.0	This is Fresh Air. I is fresh air.
0:33.3	I'm Terry Gross.
0:34.7	My guest Isabel Kirchner covers Israeli and Palestinian politics and society for the
0:39.8	New York Times and has been covering the war between Israel and Hamas. She previously
0:45.0	was the senior editor at the Jerusalem report. Her latest book, The Land of
0:49.6	Hope and Fear, Israel's Battle for its Inner Soul, is about its inner soul is about the generational ideological
0:55.6	religious and ethnic conflicts within Israel.
0:58.6	Kershner is British and has lived in Jerusalem since 2000.
1:03.0	She was in Jerusalem when we recorded our interview yesterday.
1:07.0	Isabel Kursner, welcome to Fresh Air.
1:10.0	Do you have friends, relatives, colleagues who are kidnapped or killed in Israel,
1:15.9	or friends who have lost loved ones or their homes in Gaza?
1:21.4	Hi Terry and thank you for having me. I personally directly don't but my two sons have friends who have been killed, who have been kidnapped to Gaza.
1:35.0	I have relatives whose very close friends have been killed.
1:41.0	I have extended family, parts of their families have been killed in the October 7 attacks.
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