I'm Gail Sorob and you're listening to She Explorers.

Tori might try to jump on later so hopefully that's not too jarring if that happens but I do love that she was hoping to dial in like from a mountain.

That seems perfect.

Okay, so the really quick and easy first question is if you could just share your

name, your pronouns, and any other identifiers that you want to share.

My name is Heather Hanson.

My pronouns are she and her and what other what do people say for identifying factors?

Do you call yourself a journalist?

Yeah, yeah, I actually stumble with that question a little bit

because I don't know what the, I think it's so hard when you're, you work for yourself to kind of like decide what bucket you fit into.

So I say, yeah, I'm a journalist, I say I'm a writer, I think I can say that I'm an author.

That's like a funny one.

When do you claim that?

Yeah, I'm a writer.

I'd say writer sums up Heather Hansman pretty darn well. She's very much an author too.

We last had Heather on She Explorers back in 2019 to talk about her first book, Dad River.

In it, she paddled down the Green River to research. about her first book, Dad River.

In it, she paddled down the Green River

to research water in the West.

It's part adventure memoir, part investigative journalism,

as she made sense of the people, Flora, and fauna that depend on the river's waters.

This time around we're talking about Heather's latest book, Powder Days,

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