Examining DEI
Beg to Differ with Mona Charen
The Bulwark
4.6 • 1.3K Ratings
🗓️ 3 March 2025
⏱️ 56 minutes
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Summary
Referenced Works and Sources
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Reflections of an Affirmative Action Baby by Steven Carter
- Discusses the complexities and unintended consequences of affirmative action from a personal and academic perspective.
- Discusses the complexities and unintended consequences of affirmative action from a personal and academic perspective.
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The Bakke Case (Regents of the University of California v. Bakke, 1978)
- A landmark Supreme Court decision that ruled against racial quotas in university admissions while allowing race to be one of several factors in admissions decisions.
- A landmark Supreme Court decision that ruled against racial quotas in university admissions while allowing race to be one of several factors in admissions decisions.
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Fisher v. University of Texas(2013, 2016)
- Supreme Court cases addressing race-conscious admissions policies in higher education.
- Supreme Court cases addressing race-conscious admissions policies in higher education.
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Implicit Bias Tests (Implicit Association Test, IAT)
- Psychological tests used to measure unconscious biases, though their reliability and effectiveness in predicting behavior have been widely debated.
- Psychological tests used to measure unconscious biases, though their reliability and effectiveness in predicting behavior have been widely debated.
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Yasha Mounk’s The Identity Trap: A Story of Ideas and Power in Our Time
- Discusses the ideological shifts in race-conscious policies and how they impact public discourse.
- Discusses the ideological shifts in race-conscious policies and how they impact public discourse.
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New York Times Investigative Report on DEI at the University of Michigan
- A report detailing the impact of DEI initiatives at a major university, highlighting unintended consequences such as workplace tension and polarization.
- A report detailing the impact of DEI initiatives at a major university, highlighting unintended consequences such as workplace tension and polarization.
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| 0:36.3 | Welcome, everyone. I am delighted today to be talking with my friend and colleague, Kathy Young, of the bulwark. |
| 0:44.2 | Right in the very first week, it seemed, of the Trump second presidency, there was a terrible plane crash in the DC area that killed scores of people. |
| 0:59.6 | And before they had even had a chance to pull the victims from the icy waters, far less |
| 1:06.5 | perform any kind of investigation about what happened. |
| 1:11.9 | Trump and his minions were out saying, well, this is DEI, obviously. |
| 1:17.7 | It's the DEI policies of the Biden administration that have caused this accident. |
| 1:23.8 | So, Kathy and I both rolled our eyes and pulled our hair out because obviously there's no way anybody could have known at that stage. |
| 1:35.3 | What caused the accident? |
| 1:38.3 | But in other forums, I have said that I am somewhat in sympathy with the idea that DEI needs to be rolled back. |
| 1:52.4 | And people in our chat and online have responded shocked. |
| 1:58.1 | They think that that means that I'm either on Trump's side or that I don't believe in outreach to minority communities or, you know, the old-fashioned idea of diversity. |
| 2:10.7 | And so I thought, the perfect person to talk with me about this, to clarify the many layers of this very, it is a very, very complicated topic. |
| 2:22.3 | The topic of DEI, Kathy, you have written about it, I think, in a really great way because you say, |
| 2:31.3 | at the one, you know, on the one hand, the trump approach is atrocious and it almost discredits |
| 2:37.3 | the ideas that are out that that that really um deserve a hearing because he's touching them |
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