You were once a witch. Yeah. I remember driving home and I said, God, there's no way you're real.

I'm going to give you one chance. If you're real, prove it.

Why is new age spirituality dangerous and a counterfeit of true freedom and real truth?

She was like, all of this is the reason that you've been feeling this way. All this witchcraft. She's pointing at my altar, my crystals, my tarot cards, all of that. She's like, this is why. How did you break free from witchcraft? How did you break free from that satanic oppression? If you're void of the knowledge and wisdom that comes from this word, you will be void in discernment. You've got to have spiritual discernment and the only way that

you can discern evil is to know the truth. The enemy runs the same play. He's playing on this

lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes and the pride of life. Do you think that the enneagram is

demonic? Yes. Okay, here's where my brain's going. I think you tried to really emphasize the

third story to make it sound like a lie, but it was actually true. Am I right? Correct. Well, when you start talking about a deranged person, I'm like,

you've either told this a billion times or you just made that up.

What's up, guys? Welcome back to another episode of Stay True podcast. I'm your host, Madison

Pruitt Trout, and I am here with the very lovely Ashley Jones.

Hi, friends. I'm so excited. You guys, honestly, I have not been this excited about a podcast in a while.

No offense to everyone else had been around. Oh my gosh. And I just am so pumped because what we're going to be talking about today fires me up. But also this is our first time meeting. Yeah. Which is crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know. I definitely feel like I've seen you from afar with a lot of, I mean, you hung out with Janine. Right. Yeah, we went on her podcast. I know of you very, very strongly. I mean, you have spoken at Liberty. I live right there. So no of you, excited.

This is a great. Right. Yeah, we have mutual friends. I know of you very, very strongly. I mean, you have spoken at

Liberty. I live right there. So no of you. Excited. This is going to be really good. Here we are. I'm

so, so excited. But Ashley is going to get into her testimony in a second, but you have a pretty

unbelievable story. Like, honestly, one, like I've never heard. And so I'm really excited for you

guys to hear about it. But you are a wife, a mom. I'm not a mom yet. Not a mom yet. Oh,

I'm prophesying. She might be. She might be. Well, this is exciting. Okay, so part of your story

is that you were once a witch which sounds so crazy and intense but i think

a lot of people like don't even realize that it's actually pretty common oh it's so common so i would

love to just know how does someone become a witch and when when they are a witch, is it like a known thing? Do people around you know that you're a witch? Well, I like that you said that it's really common. And one reason for that is because when people are in witchcraft and actively practicing as a witch, they wouldn't call themselves that. It's something that I walked in

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