The best gift I've ever received has to be a bike when I was younger, a pedal bike.

It was a sort of slick little road bike and I remember it was all like, it was so, it was all wrapped up,

it was so obvious what it was obviously because nothing's shaped like a bike and I had a little ribbon on it and I was so guest.

For that was a life changer and I'm still sort of big on cycling around my area now so for that one change me a little.

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I'm Dave Rubin and joining me today is a former television news journalist and now candidate for governor of the great state of Arizona.

Carrie Lake, welcome to the Rubin Report.

Hi Dave, thank you for having me. I'm so excited to be here.

Carrie, I have to start very obviously my audience is going to hear a former television journalist they're going to freak out because they don't like journalists.

Am I allowed to call you a former journalist without using air quotes because you know journalists these days I think you get it.

Well I came up through the old school of journalism where you told both sides of the story if there were three sides you told all three sides and you kept your opinions out.

And that's why I walked away from my career I started in journalism 30 years ago when that's how you did it.

And now we've increasingly seen journalists moving on out being replaced with propagandists.

And I was at the top of my game number one in ratings for pretty much my entire time covering Arizona most recently 22 years at the Fox affiliate.

Number one that whole time making a fortune had a pretty good life and then COVID struck and I realized there are no good guys in the corporate media.

If there were good guys they would have covered Iver Mectin told us about hydroxychloroquine they would have been honest about the election and the corruption involved in that.

And I just you know I looked up in my career and said oh my gosh I can't do this anymore I don't want to be part of this it was getting increasingly more difficult to be honest with the people of Arizona and if I couldn't speak 100% truth I didn't want to be part of it so I walked away.

I do think there are some good journalists out there the ones you're seeing on the corporate media unfortunately are mainly propagandists today.

Do you remember a moment that you started getting an inkling of all that did it really start with COVID or I suspect in 22 years you probably saw some other hints leading to where we got to today.

You know the news has increasingly been moving toward the left obviously over the past many decades and I just always felt like well as long as I keep what comes out of my mouth and when I'm being a journalist I can keep that straight on the straight and narrow and make sure that I'm being fair.

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