This is Recode Media with Peter Kafka. That's me. It's brought to you by Digital Media. I'm here with John Favreau, one of the two John Favreau's. This is the John Favreau that used to work in the White House. That's correct. Hung out on Air Force One. Once in a while. Now you're talking to me on a podcast. I'm sorry about that. Life has gone well. Oh, this is very cool.

I've been listening.

You've been in my ear once or twice a week since July.

It's a... that life has gone well this is very cool I've been listening to even in my ear

once or twice a week since July it's a super intense relationship you've got so

you've got a pocket among other things you're doing a podcast in a podcast

Bill Sun and's ringer network yes keeping it 1600 you and a cast of

three or four other folks yeah and rotating and out and no an Obama crew we should talk about some of the mechanics of podcasting, but we should talk about Trump and the campaign. Sure. We're recording this on a Thursday. It's going to come out hopefully on Tuesday morning. It's nearly impossible. Actually, it's literally impossible to keep up with the news cycle. Something could happen 10 minutes after we finish this. It probably will. Which just happened, right? So I was listening to you this morning. You taped something yesterday. In between then, every woman in the world said Donald Trump had, I'm being facetious and flip, and I probably shouldn't, had assaulted her. Yes. As you're thinking about sort of commenting publicly on the race, I mean, in a podcast, how do you do that? I don't know myself. Yeah, so, I mean,

we, when we plan each podcast, I think we all talk about, okay, what's happened this week?

We try to make it obviously as topical as possible. Yeah. But, you know, the good thing is,

even if something doesn't seem super newsworthy, we try to cover it in a different

way from a different angle than you would see on cable news or read about. And so I think our

philosophy, to the extent that there is one, is we try to bring to bear sort of our experience,

having worked in the White House and on campaigns campaigns to what's happening in the news today.

The idea of someone who worked in politics

who's now commenting in media, in media,

pretty time-tested one.

Seems for some reason like what you're doing

is a little different.

Maybe it's just perspective.

Maybe you haven't had someone who's been that high up

the totem pole in Washington

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