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TRIGGERnometry

Ex-Muslim: This is a Difficult Conversation | Sarah Haider

TRIGGERnometry

Konstantin Kisin & Francis Foster

News, Society & Culture, Politics

4.53.4K Ratings

🗓️ 28 May 2023

⏱️ 82 minutes

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Sarah Haider is a Pakistani-American writer, public speaker, and political activist. She created the advocacy group Ex-Muslims of North America (EXMNA), which seeks to normalise religious dissent and to help former Muslims leave the religion by linking them to support networks. Sarah’s Substack: https://sarahhaider.substack.com/ Sarah’s Podcast: https://aspecialplace.substack.com/ SPONSORED BY: BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://betterhelp.com/trigger/ - get 10% off your first month, and get on your way to being your best self. SPONSORED BY: ExpressVPN. Go to https://www.expressvpn.com/trigger/ and get an extra 3 months free on a one-year package! Join our exclusive TRIGGERnometry community on Locals! https://triggernometry.locals.com/ OR Support TRIGGERnometry Here: Bitcoin: bc1qm6vvhduc6s3rvy8u76sllmrfpynfv94qw8p8d5 Music by: Music by: Xentric | info@xentricapc.com | https://www.xentricapc.com/ YouTube:  @xentricapc  Buy Merch Here: https://www.triggerpod.co.uk/shop/ Advertise on TRIGGERnometry: marketing@triggerpod.co.uk Join the Mailing List: https://www.triggerpod.co.uk/sign-up/ Find TRIGGERnometry on Social Media: https://twitter.com/triggerpod https://www.facebook.com/triggerpod/ https://www.instagram.com/triggerpod/ About TRIGGERnometry:  Stand-up comedians Konstantin Kisin (@konstantinkisin) and Francis Foster (@francisjfoster) make sense of politics, economics, free speech, AI, drug policy and WW3 with the help of presidential advisors, renowned economists, award-winning journalists, controversial writers, leading scientists and notorious comedians. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I started to give talks and panels about the problems that I saw in the faith.

0:08.0

Then there was a sense of, wait, wait, let's think about whether this is the right time

0:14.2

to talk about these issues.

0:16.0

I've started to re-evaluate that and consider that maybe I was not fully understanding

0:24.2

the fundamental values and principles of the modern left.

0:28.0

And it is also the case that Islam treats innovation within the faith differently than other

0:34.8

religions.

0:35.8

I think it is more intolerant.

0:37.8

One of those ways in which I think Islam is different, unique in the main religions

0:43.2

of the world is that it is very political.

0:45.8

The higher the percentage of Muslims in your locality, the more that this blasphemy prohibition

0:56.9

becomes actual de facto law.

1:03.9

Hello and welcome to Trigonometry on the road from the USA.

1:13.3

I'm Francis Foster.

1:14.3

I'm Constantin Kissen.

1:15.8

And this is a show for you if you want honest conversations with fascinating people.

1:20.8

Our terrific guest today is a writer and the co-founder of Ex-Muslims for North America.

1:26.1

Thanks for having me here, guys.

1:28.4

It's great to have you.

1:29.4

It's a pleasure to speak with you.

1:30.7

I mentioned to you before that one of the reasons we so wanted to talk to you is you wrote

1:35.1

a piece after the Salman Rushdie attempted murder that was so powerful in articulated things

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