I started to give talks and panels about the problems that I saw in the faith.

Then there was a sense of, wait, wait, let's think about whether this is the right time

to talk about these issues.

I've started to re-evaluate that and consider that maybe I was not fully understanding

the fundamental values and principles of the modern left.

And it is also the case that Islam treats innovation within the faith differently than other

religions.

I think it is more intolerant.

One of those ways in which I think Islam is different, unique in the main religions

of the world is that it is very political.

The higher the percentage of Muslims in your locality, the more that this blasphemy prohibition

becomes actual de facto law.

Hello and welcome to Trigonometry on the road from the USA.

I'm Francis Foster.

I'm Constantin Kissen.

And this is a show for you if you want honest conversations with fascinating people.

Our terrific guest today is a writer and the co-founder of Ex-Muslims for North America.

Thanks for having me here, guys.

It's great to have you.

It's a pleasure to speak with you.

I mentioned to you before that one of the reasons we so wanted to talk to you is you wrote

a piece after the Salman Rushdie attempted murder that was so powerful in articulated things

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