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Drama Queens

Ex-MAGA Carter Brown - part 1

Drama Queens

iHeartPodcasts

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4.924K Ratings

🗓️ 25 March 2026

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

She voted for Donald Trump and believed the movement was righteous. Now Sophia is reaching across the aisle as this Georgia mother of two is unraveling it all in real time in front of a global audience. Ex-MAGA Carter Brown opens up about the manipulation, gaslighting and guilt she felt as her belief system cracked and crumbled. It's a challenging, painful and raw discussion that just might be the key to understanding how people get sucked in, and what it takes to find a way out.

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.5

Guaranteed human.

0:04.4

Hey, everyone. It's Sophia.

0:06.7

Welcome to Work in Progress.

0:18.5

Welcome to Work in Progress.

0:20.2

Today, I'm going to practice what I preach as I'm on my own ever-evolving path to being able to hold more dialectics simultaneously, more things to be true at the same time, even when they feel

0:39.9

oppositional. It's no secret for my listeners that I really believe that creating a world

0:48.3

for all of us is the most important thing we can do in our lifetime. And I get pretty active about the systems

0:56.4

and organizations that I think want to take us backwards. And in trying to figure out how

1:06.4

we build a bigger, broader coalition for good and how we welcome people who want to leave

1:13.6

circles of harm and show up for circles of care. I have really been working on figuring out

1:23.6

how to do that in my own life. And through someone that I really cherish and love in the movement for justice, I met somebody

1:35.3

that a few years ago I probably wouldn't have hung out with for a conversation.

1:40.0

I was introduced to a young woman named Carter Brown.

1:44.0

Carter comes from deep evangelical MAGA world.

1:49.2

She is in her own world's sorry for being, but was a Donald Trump voter.

1:57.0

She really came from an environment that told her that this was a political path that

2:03.7

overlapped with righteousness.

2:06.5

And in recent years, she's begun deconstructing.

2:11.6

I have a best friend Jed who is a deconstructed evangelical.

2:15.9

My friend Monty Mayter, who you all see me share a lot

2:19.1

is an incredible woman leading in that space.

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