For more analysis, I'm joined now by John Sanweg, who served as acting ICE director under President

Obama. John, welcome back to the show. Thanks for being with us. Yeah, thanks for having me.

So as you've seen, DHS is saying that the ICE agent here was acting in self-defense. The mayor of

Minneapolis, others have dismissed that after they saw the video. Have you yourself watched the video?

What's your assessment of what happened here?

I think the videos, I've seen two videos now, and I think both of them raise troubling questions here.

But I think what concerns me is this rush to judgment.

Really on both sides, but I did find the DHS statement particularly irresponsible.

This requires an investigation.

The video certainly raises concerns, you know,

as to whether or not the officer had a reasonable basis to believe his life or the life of his

fellow agents were in, you know, either serious danger of death or bodily injury. But, you know,

these videos are not, like, they're not the entire story. And it can be misleading. And so I think what would concern me is

that we're, you know, we have all these people making these immediate rushes to judgment

without first conducting a formal investigation, getting the facts we need, and then drawing

our conclusions based on a thorough assessment of what exactly happened. You mentioned that DHS

statement. It was very long in detail, definitively coming out in

defense of the ICE agent's actions. What questions do you think need to be answered now to figure out

what exactly happened here? Well, I know, first of all, I'll tell you, I spent five years at DHS

working for a secretary. And whenever something like this happens, the initial information you get is

just not accurate. You get all sort of people doing their best to provide quickly information to the department's leadership.

And just unfortunately, it just tends not to be, you know, you get this misleading or wrong

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