Ex Google-Exec: AI is Going to Kill Us in 2027. (Only to Make us Happier!) | Mo Gawdat (Part 2) : 1231
The Human Upgrade with Dave Asprey
Dave Asprey
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🗓️ 12 December 2024
⏱️ 25 minutes
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Summary
Will the next nuclear bomb be AI Superintelligence?
The intelligence we’re building will reshape the world in ways we never imagined—for better or worse? But more importantly, what side will humanity take?
In this episode, Mo Gawdat, bestselling author of Scary Smart and former Chief Business Officer of Google X, joins Dave to tackle the profound challenges and opportunities artificial intelligence presents. This isn’t about dystopian robots or tech hype—it’s about redefining what it means to be human in the age of machines. There’s hope, don’t worry!
Mo dives into the reality of how AI is already shaping our behavior, our ethics, and even our potential for happiness. He reveals the critical need for aligning intelligence—human or artificial—with values that promote global abundance and collaboration. Dave and Mo mix data, philosophy, and bold visions, to show why our future depends on shifting from competition to cooperation. But most importantly, why all of this is going to make you a better YOU.
What You’ll Learn:
• The real reason AI is reshaping human behavior—and how to take back control
• Why intelligence without ethics could lead to catastrophe
• How abundance thinking can unlock limitless possibilities for humanity
• The crucial mindset shifts leaders need to adopt before it’s too late
• Practical insights for ensuring AI supports human flourishing, not destruction
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Dave Asprey’s Website – https://daveasprey.com
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Timestamps:
• 00:00 The Ethical Dilemma of AI in Warfare
• 00:31 Introduction to Part Two with Mo Gawdat
• 00:58 AI and Human Happiness: A Complex Relationship
• 03:18 The Power and Responsibility of Technology
• 05:08 The Rise of AI and Its Impact on Society
• 08:31 The Future of AI: Abundance or Destruction?
• 19:53 The Role of Ethics in AI Development
• 22:39 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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| 0:00.0 | There's absolutely nothing inherently wrong with AI, but there actually are generals in our world |
| 0:05.5 | today that are telling machines to go and kill humans. You become a little more intelligent, |
| 0:10.3 | you impact the world a little bit, you become more intelligent, you start to take away from |
| 0:14.4 | the world. You become a politician or a selfish businessman or a criminal, basically try to use your |
| 0:19.3 | intelligence for your own benefit at the |
| 0:21.1 | expense of everyone else. Give me 400 IQ points more. I will start to build gardens. So you walk to |
| 0:26.9 | one tree and pick an apple and walk to another three and pick an iPhone. You're listening to the |
| 0:32.4 | Human Upgrade with Dave Asprey. As promised, here's part two of the interview with Mo Goudat. |
| 0:41.4 | If you haven't watched the first part yet, go back to the last episode and give it a shot. |
| 0:46.9 | This is something you want to hear. |
| 0:49.5 | Mo is one of the most influential thinkers that I can think of. |
| 0:53.7 | That's kind of a funny way of putting it, but it's totally true. |
| 0:56.4 | So for now, enjoy part two. |
| 0:58.8 | So let's bring AI and happiness together. |
| 1:01.7 | How do we use AI to make humans happier? |
| 1:04.8 | It seems to me that it is unlikely in the short term that AI will make everyone happier. |
| 1:13.4 | So let me be very blunt about this. |
| 1:16.3 | I don't think there is anything inherently evil or, you know, against humanity with AI. |
| 1:24.7 | Okay. |
| 1:25.1 | I don't think there is anything inherently wrong |
| 1:27.8 | with AI. |
| 1:28.5 | I think there's absolutely |
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