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Moonshots with Peter Diamandis

Ex-Google CEO Breaks Down the US vs. China AI Race & How We Avoid a Global Crisis w/ Dr. Eric Schmidt & Dave Blundin | EP #207

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis

PHD Ventures

Business

4.8605 Ratings

🗓️ 11 November 2025

⏱️ 26 minutes

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This episode was recorded at https://www.imaginationinaction.co/ Get access to metatrends 10+ years before anyone else - https://qr.diamandis.com/metatrends   Eric Schmidt is the former CEO of Google; Chair and CEO of Relativity Space. Dave Blundin is the founder & GP of Link Ventures _ Connect with Peter: X Instagram Connect with Eric:  X Linkedin  His latest book Connect with Dave:  X LinkedIn Listen to MOONSHOTS: Apple YouTube – *Recorded on November 7th, 2025 *The views expressed by me and all guests are personal opinions and do not constitute Financial, Medical, or Legal advice. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Is America going to win the AI race?

0:03.0

There are three obvious threats right now.

0:05.0

Is China winning the global race to develop artificial intelligence technology?

0:10.0

So how far ahead of China do you think we are?

0:13.0

Overall, I would say...

0:15.0

China put in 172 gigawatts of solar last year, I think is the number. It's remarkable. We needed in our calculation by 2030

0:25.6

92 gigawatts to be built. A big nuclear power plant is somewhere between one and one and a half gigawatts.

0:33.6

The country needs more energy. And if we don't get more energy, we're not going to be able to fully exploit the lead we have in AI and AI. It's very clear. It's probably the case that...

0:47.3

Now that's the moonshot, ladies and gentlemen. Everybody, welcome to part two of Eric Schmidt Week on moonshots.

0:56.7

In this episode, my moonshot made Dave Blundon is interviewing Eric Schmidt about U.S. versus China

1:02.4

and how to avoid crisis during this period of hyper-exponential growth in AI.

1:08.3

Heads up, this audio recording from Eric is a little bit choppy. He was on

1:13.6

Wi-Fi from his hotel room, but guarantee you the content is valuable. So please listen in.

1:19.6

And also, this was recorded about a month ago. It took us a while to get the footage out to all

1:23.8

of you. All right, let's jump in this episode with Dave Lundon and Eric Schmidt.

1:33.3

So what don't I start you with is America going to win the AI race? Because I know that's a topic that you've spoken on quite a bit.

1:40.3

It's also addressed a little bit in your new book, Genesis, AI, Hope, and the human spirit,

1:46.8

which hopefully everybody will read with Henry Kissinger, actually, as a co-author. So are we going

1:52.1

to win the AI race? And, you know, what are the scenarios where we win and lose?

1:56.0

It looks like we will. And let me find, define like so I think the San Francisco

2:03.1

consensus which is I call it is what people in San Francisco believe which

2:07.7

turtably was you're just that you're going to be a billed from current

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