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Straight White American Jesus

Ex-Evangelical Apologetics: Are Leavers Broken and/or Just Giving Up? (SWAJ Rewind)

Straight White American Jesus

Axis Mundi Media: Bradley Onishi + Daniel Miller

News, Politics

4.7 • 2K Ratings

🗓️ 29 December 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Brad revisits the idea that exvangelicals are just broke and giving up on faith. He responds to an interview at the Remnant Radio with Skillet's John Cooper. Topics discussed: Do non-Evangelicals allow culture to shape them, while Evangelicals allow Scripture to be the formative influence? Is Truth all or nothing? Why are Evangelicals so upset when exvies "share the Gospel" of their deconstruction? Subscribe for $5.99 a month to get bonus content most Mondays, bonus episodes every month, ad-free listening, access to the entire 1000+ episode archive, Discord access, and more: ⁠https://axismundi.supercast.com/⁠ Linktree:⁠ https://linktr.ee/StraightWhiteJC⁠ Order Brad's book: ⁠https://bookshop.org/a/95982/9781506482163⁠ ⁠Subscribe to Teología Sin Vergßenza⁠ ⁠Subscribe to American Exceptionalism⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

AXIS Moondy

0:02.0

What's up y'all?

0:19.0

Welcome to Straight White American Jesus. My name is Bradenishi, our social partnership with the CAP Center, UCSB.

0:24.7

And today I wanted to just spend some time on a good old rebuttal to folks who continue to badmouth those who are deconstructing and those who are ex-evangelicals.

0:37.1

And so it just seems like a lot of

0:40.0

Christian leaders and figures and luminaries and celebrities just can't stop. They just,

0:45.5

they feel this need to, uh, to talk about us ex-evangelicals. So I haven't done one of these in a while.

0:51.0

Wanted to to do this. I had a, uh I had a somebody reach out to Michael Taylor who listens

0:56.5

to the show and say, hey, can you, can you listen to this and watch this and do that? So basically,

1:02.0

I want to respond to some, an interview with John Cooper, who's the lead singer of Skillet. Some of

1:10.3

you will know who that is. Here he is

1:12.2

right here. Skillet is a pretty famous Christian evangelical band. Some of you out there will have

1:20.3

memories of listening to their albums. He was on a radio show, a YouTube show called the Remnant

1:27.4

Radio. And on there, he talked about ex-evangelicals and

1:31.2

why, you know, they're the worst thing ever. And this all started with a Facebook post that he made

1:38.3

back in 2019, and that Facebook post made a lot of rounds. And I just think some of the points

1:43.5

in the post are worth talking about. And then what he said just like a month and a half ago is worth talking about.

1:50.2

So in the post, titled, what in God's name is happening in Christianity, John Cooper says a lot of

1:59.5

things, but he first says uh okay i'm saying it because it's too

2:05.5

important not to what is happening in christianity more and more of our outspoken leaders or

2:11.2

influencers who are once faces of the faith are falling away and at the the same time, they're being very vocal and bold about it.

2:19.3

Shockingly, they still want to influence others as they announce that they are leaving the faith.

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