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That's hillsdale.edu slash trigger. I'm on the right side of history. I'm atoning for

being descended from this oppressive group of people. And so it was all in my psychology a way to be a good person. I gave AOC one of her first interviews. I interviewed Greta Thunberg. And look at her now. I mean, I feel like she's lost the plot. I didn't know, like, how bad Stalin and Mao were. I did not know. I didn't know. I really thought that like we were just the worst country, which is really, it's so, it's so sad. I truly was the definition of a useful idiot. It's like I have 10 years to live. It's kind of brainwashing, isn't it? Yeah. I think it's brainwashing and I'll be even more hyperbolic. I say it's a crime against humanity.

Can you win those people over?

We can win them over. I think we're moving out of this emotional heightened space. What? I think we are. What? I don't think it's getting worse because of social media and because of like Trump derangement syndrome for the last 10 years. last 10 years, I think it's like something's got to give.

Lucy, welcome to Trigonometry.

Thank you so much for having. for the last 10 years, I think it's like something's got to give.

Lucy, welcome to Trigonometry.

Thank you so much for having me.

I'm so excited to be here.

Oh, it's great to have you.

You were a climate activist and you're not anymore.

You have a very interesting story to tell.

So why don't we just get started there?

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