Ex-CIA Officer On How The Cubans Failed Maduro in Venezuela
The Rest Is Classified
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🗓️ 9 January 2026
⏱️ 5 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | For exclusive interviews, bonus episodes, ad-free listening, early access to series, |
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| 0:13.1 | Join the Declassified Club at the rest is classified.com. |
| 0:17.3 | Music Welcome, everybody. |
| 0:26.2 | Welcome everybody. |
| 0:26.5 | Welcome to classified club members, secret squirrels. |
| 0:29.3 | Welcome any new members we've got. |
| 0:32.1 | And we've been running. |
| 0:33.5 | I hope you've heard a series, |
| 0:36.0 | a kind of rapid response emergency podcast series looking at those |
| 0:39.8 | events in Venezuela in the last week or so. And we've done two episodes looking at the raid |
| 0:46.9 | that captured Nicholas Maduro and also the questions of why the US carried it out. |
| 0:52.9 | But events are clearly moving very fast. And we wanted to kind of |
| 0:56.6 | dive a bit deeper this week and give our club members the perspective of someone who's got some |
| 1:02.1 | real experience in Latin America and from inside the US intelligence community. So we've got a |
| 1:08.3 | great guest, haven't we, David? We do, Gordon, and we are very delighted to welcome to the club Dave Fitzgerald. Dave served for 37 years and did |
| 1:19.9 | 13 overseas tours in the CIA. He was a seven-time chief of station serving in numerous conflict zones all over the world, |
| 1:29.5 | including Africa, Latin America, the Middle East, and South Asia. |
| 1:34.0 | He served principally in Latin America throughout his career, but also held a number of senior |
| 1:40.5 | headquarters positions, including the chief of our Latin America operations and Latin |
| 1:46.1 | America deputy division chief. He was also the senior DCIA, director of the CIA representative, |
| 1:54.8 | to CENTCOM, U.S. Central Command, from 2017 to 2020, and he is currently the president and co-founder of Vector 1 Global, |
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