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EX.786 Barker

RA Podcast

Resident Advisor

Music

4.7662 Ratings

🗓️ 17 December 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

The Leisure System co-founder talks psychology, behavioral science and his standout album of the year, Stochastic Drift. Sam Barker's influence on contemporary electronic music culture spans many levels—not only as a producer and DJ pushing against traditional genre boundaries, but also as key figure behind the scenes as head of the label Leisure System. He came into RA HQ to talk about the central thesis in his current work: exploring organic, human timing in a genre that has become increasingly obsessed with mechanized grids. The Berlin-based artist tells us about how he puts this theory into practice in his standout album of the year, Stochastic Drift, and his recent collaborative project with saxophonist Bendik Giske. Beyond the technical, he also reflects on the evolution of the Berlin scene, the surprising arguments for liberation in the streaming economy and the role of art in imagining a utopian future. Listen to the episode in full.

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0:00.0

RA Exchange

0:03.0

Hello and welcome back to the RE Exchange.

0:07.0

I'm your host in the Exchange's Hello and welcome back to the RE Exchange.

0:23.4

I'm your host and the Exchange's senior producer, Chloe Lula.

0:27.1

Today on the program, I'm joined by Sam Barker,

0:30.4

an artist whose influence on contemporary electronic music operates on several levels,

0:35.8

not only as a producer and DJ pushing against the boundaries

0:39.1

of dance music, but also as a key infrastructure builder behind the scenes with his seminal

0:44.7

label leisure system. Joining us fresh off a recent gig at fold, Barker came into the RA headquarters

0:50.9

to engage in a conversation about the central, compelling thesis in his current work,

0:56.0

an exploration of organic, human timing, and a genre that has become increasingly obsessed with mechanized grids.

1:03.0

We dive deep into how this philosophy manifests in practice, discussing his standout album of the year, Stochastic Drift, and his recent collaborative

1:12.3

project with saxophonist Benedict Gisca, where he designed sensors that forces his synthesizers

1:18.0

to follow the nuances of human breath rather than a study clock. Beyond the technical, we widen

1:24.0

the lens to cover his 20-year perspective on the evolution of the Berlin scene,

1:29.0

the surprising arguments for liberation in the streaming economy, and the role of art in imagining a utopic future.

1:36.3

We had a very rigorous and wide-ranging conversation about subverting dance floor expectations and the physics of sound,

1:43.8

the changing architecture of the music industry.

1:46.6

Sam is an insightful and incredibly thoughtful and well-read guest, and it was really a delight to have him on the show.

1:54.4

Thank you so much for tuning in.

1:56.4

Next up, Barker.

2:05.6

Hey Sam. Hey Chloe.

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