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modern astrophysics, cosmology, astronomy is at the universe as best we can tell for multiple

reasons had a beginning.

Everyone, if you push them far enough and you made them think, they would have to admit that.

There are primitive cultures technologically, but there are no primitive languages.

How you get from what the primates do to what we do is a complete mystery.

It's a hugely unsolved mystery in evolutionary theory.

It's that information always arises from an intelligent source, whether we're talking about

computer code or a paragraph in a book or hieroglyphic inscription.

Information is, in our experience, a product of intelligence.

Your description of that just gave me chills.

Let me unpack it a little bit. When I was in school, the surest way to be called an idiot was to question the theory of evolution,

which is precisely what my guest, Dr. Stephen Meyer, has done,

and he's done a lot more than that. In fact, he's questioned a lot of everything,

and he has a new movie out called The Story of Everything.

Steve, thank you for being here.

Thank you for having me, Michael. It's great to be here.

I want to get to evolution. I want to get to the origin of life. I want to get to the existence of God. I want to get to how you have contradicted

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