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Money and time for it this hour, but we like any opportunity to give a good kick into one mark Zuckerberg

Well that is true. I've been looking forward to this interview since we booked it Roger McNamy is a tech venture capitalist

Writer a thinker also a musician and he's written a book called zucked waking up to the Facebook

Cutastrophe Roger welcome. How are you sir? I am really well. It's so much fun to be on the show with you guys

Oh, that's that's nice you to say I see you went to a Yale bribe or merit

You know, I actually it was worse than that. It was random dumb luck and

No, I was I was I was back in the days before bribe or merit even matter to really yes got picked

Yeah, I'm that old. Yeah, well you've done well. So it's so good for you. Hey listen the title

Tastrophe seems strong. That's a strong word waking up to the Facebook catastrophe do tell so you know guys

Here's what the issue is that we as consumers love using internet products, right?

We love the fun. We love the convenience. We love the productivity that come from them

But our understanding of the deal that we have with them which is that we give up our data

They give us this really cool personalized surface is not what's actually going on

What's actually going on is that these guys do that?

But they're now building businesses that are designed to essentially manipulate us in ways we're not aware and I'll give you a couple examples like Google

Right when you think about

Gmail which is something so many of us use right we we originally signed up with a deal that said Google you may scan our emails

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