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Evil Neuroscience Part 1: Popping Whale Brains and Suffocating Dolphins (Premium E335) Sample

QAA Podcast

Julian Feeld, Travis View & Jake Rockatansky

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4.34.6K Ratings

🗓️ 10 May 2026

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

Before marine mammal song CDs conquered mall kiosks and the slogan “Save the Whales” appeared on bumper stickers nationwide, one scientist became obsessed with the idea that dolphins might be our closest nonhuman intellectual peers. In part one of our two-part Evil Neuroscience series, Jack dives into the life and work of John C. Lilly: neurophysiologist, dolphin researcher, SETI-adjacent dreamer, and the man whose attempts to bridge the interspecies communication gap proved to be more horrifying than illuminating. We follow Lilly from Biblical ideas about language and human supremacy to the Green Bank conference, where astronomers, NASA advisors, and future SETI legends formed the secretive “Order of the Dolphin.” Then we head to Marineland and Dolphin Rock, where Lilly’s research involved whale brains, suffocating dolphins, dolphin vocalization experiments, LSD, Margaret Howe’s infamous live-in language study with Peter the dolphin, and the tragic collapse of the project. Along the way: Bob Dylan’s worst song, existential elk, horny dolphins, Cold War science funding, animal language research, and the birth of the New Age dolphin obsession. Next time, Jack unpacks how Lilly’s search for nonhuman intelligence turned inward through isolation tanks, psychedelics, MKULTRA-adjacent research, and the Earth Coincidence Control Office. Subscribe for $5 a month to get all the premium episodes: www.patreon.com/qaa Check out our new podcast series network Cursed Media! All episodes of Spectral Voyager Season 2 are out now! Binge the entirety of Truly Tradly Deeply by Annie Kelly and Megan Kelly as well as Science in Transition by Liv Agar and Spencer Barrows: cursedmedia.net Produced by Liv Agar & Corey Klotz. Theme by Nick Sena. Additional music by Pontus Berghe. Theme Vocals by THEY/LIVE (instagram.com/theyylivve / sptfy.com/QrDm). Cover Art by Pedro Correa: (pedrocorrea.com) qaapodcast.com QAA was known as the QAnon Anonymous podcast.

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Oh, If you're hearing this, well done, you found a way to connect to the internet.

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Welcome to the QAA podcast Premium Episode 335.

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Evil neuroscience, part one, popping whale brains and suffocating dolphins.

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Well, as always, we are your host, Jake Rakitansky, Jack LaRoche, Julian Field, and Travis View.

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Before the Animorph series sank its talons into my soul, the book I most frequently read

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was an illustrated children's Bible that was gifted to me by my grandma one early Christmas.

1:06.1

The illustrations were beautiful, and the stories were fascinating.

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It only had the Old Testament stories, and even then, as you can imagine, a lot was cut out.

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I spent a good deal of time in Genesis, looking at the two inexplicably male lines,

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waltzing up the ramp toward the ark, and wondering how Noah was going to handle that particular dilemma.

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Smart curious kid.

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Before we get to Noah and the Ark, there's another story that shaped the Abrahamic perspective

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of the world. It's only two lines in Genesis, but people have been analyzing the philosophical

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implications of it for centuries. Here's how it goes in the new international version of the Bible.

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Now the Lord God had formed out of the ground all the wild animals and all the birds in the sky.

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He brought them to the man to see what he would name them,

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