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Psych Legal Pop Podcast

Evil Influencer: The Jodi Hildebrandt Story

Psych Legal Pop Podcast

Tess & Brooke Brigham

Relationships, Society & Culture, Tv & Film, True Crime

4.2610 Ratings

🗓️ 15 January 2026

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Unraveling the case of Utah therapist Jodi Hildebrandt, whose child abuse arrest with parenting YouTuber Ruby Franke exposed a twisted tale of manipulation.


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome back to the Psych Legal Pop podcast.

0:05.0

This is a podcast where we talk about popular culture through the lens of an attorney and a therapist.

0:09.0

I'm Tess Brigham. I'm the therapist.

0:11.0

And I'm Brooke Brigham. I'm the attorney.

0:13.0

And today we are talking about the new Netflix three-part series called Evil Influencer, the Jody Hildebrand story.

0:23.7

And we were debating whether or not it was Hildebrand or Hildebrand.

0:26.6

We don't know if that T is silent or not.

0:28.6

But so we're going to, I'm going to read a quick synopsis of what this is about.

0:34.9

This is, I currently, I think it was number one for a while and I think now

0:38.4

it's number two. So many people know about it, but so evil influencer the Jody Hilderbrand story

0:43.9

is a true crime documentary on Netflix that examines the disturbing real life case of Jody Hildebrand.

0:50.0

A Utah therapist and self-styled life coach whose partnership with parenting YouTuber Ruby Frankie

0:55.9

culminated in a shocking child abuse scandal. The film focuses on Hildebrandt once respected in

1:05.0

certain communities for her counseling and religious guidance, built influence, drew in followers,

1:10.0

including Frankie, and ultimately

1:11.9

exerted psychological control that led to sustained abuse of children. It unravels the events

1:18.9

leading up to the 2023 arrest of both women after one of Frankie's youngest children escaped

1:23.9

their Utah home and sought help. This documentary shifts the spotlight primarily on to Hildebrand, her rise, her influence,

1:31.2

her methods, and her role in the abuse, rather than centering solely on Frankie.

1:36.4

Through interviews, police insights, and archival material lays out the disturbing timeline

1:41.1

of manipulation and harm.

1:44.9

Okay. Okay.

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