Evil Corp: 4. The insider

Cyber Hack

BBC

True Crime, Society & Culture, Documentary

4.8 • 2.9K Ratings

🗓️ 10 November 2025

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

A cyber-crime kingpin in a US prison speaks for the first time. How did he dodge the FBI when they came to his home? And how did he and his alleged crime gang steal millions of dollars from their victims? We learn that Jabber Zeus boss Tank had friends in high political places in Ukraine – and a budding young business associate in Russia.

Hosted by Joe Tidy, the BBC’s cyber correspondent – one of the few Western journalists to have met an alleged member of Evil Corp – and the BBC’s Eastern and Southern Europe correspondent Sarah Rainsford, who spent more than two decades reporting from Moscow.

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0:00.0	BBC Sounds, Music, radio, podcasts.
0:07.3	Hello, I'm Kimberly Wilson. I'm a psychologist, and in my new podcast, Complex, I'll be your guide
0:14.4	through all the information and misinformation that's out there about mental health.
0:19.0	I'm joined by expert guests covering topics from people
0:22.5	pleasing to perfectionism, burnout to empathy, to find tangible advice so we can understand
0:28.4	ourselves a little better. Complex with me, Kimberly Wilson. Listen on BBC Sounds.
0:35.7	Welcome to Cyberhack.
0:39.2	Episodes are released weekly wherever you get your podcasts.
0:41.3	But if you're in the UK,
0:42.5	you can listen to the latest episode
0:44.1	a week early first on BBC Sounds.
0:50.9	Okay, ready.
0:54.4	This call is from a federal prison.
0:57.0	You may begin speaking now.
0:59.2	Hello.
1:00.7	Hello.
1:01.5	How are you?
1:02.4	I'm good, I'm good.
1:03.9	What do I call you?
1:05.4	You can call me Slava.
1:06.6	Slava.
1:07.5	That's how my friends call me.
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