Everything You're Getting Wrong About the Culture Wars
The Mother Jones Podcast
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🗓️ 7 July 2021
⏱️ 32 minutes
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Summary
Everywhere you turned in the aftermath of the 2020 election, someone was arguing a hard line on cultural issues as an explanation for the outcome. The point was made by different commentators of at least outwardly different political persuasions, with different code words and different bogeys—feminists, socialists, wokeness. However they might have varied, these arguments all circled the same thesis: The members of the working class—by which is always meant the white working class and very often, incoherently but significantly, the white middle class, too—have fled the Democratic Party because of its abandonment of the firm materiality of class politics for the soft superfluities of culture and identity.
On this week’s episode of the Mother Jones Podcast, we revisit our essay by MoJo enterprise editor, Tommy Craggs, who argues that political analysts are now in the fifth decade of making some version of this claim—despite its two contradictory premises. The first is that these cultural issues are so powerful as to dislodge certain workers from their “natural” class affinities: One glimpse of the specter of wokeness and they go running into the arms of the party of the bosses and plutocrats who hate them. The second is that these cultural issues are so flimsy and evanescent as to vanish at the mention of “meat-and-potatoes issues.”
But which is it? Are cultural issues a set of powerful currents that buffet people around the political spectrum? Or are they a collection of irrelevancies and distractions with no real substance or meaning, lightly worn and easily dismissed?
These questions never seem to get answered. This stasis is what Tommy describes as the politics of stalemate, something his essay wants you to shake off. You can read Tommy’s original story here. This episode is part of our Summer series, produced in collaboration with Audm.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, it's Tommy Craig. I'm the Enterprise Editor of Mother Jones. While Jamila King and |
| 0:09.7 | the team are out, I'm here with this week's edition of the Mother Jones podcast, featuring |
| 0:13.9 | an article I wrote in December last year. It's called What's the Matter with Cultural |
| 0:18.0 | Politics? In it, I take on this argument you might have heard after the election, Democrats |
| 0:25.8 | suffered at the polls because they focus too much on cultural issues and identity politics, |
| 0:31.4 | by which people usually mean things like defund the police or bathrooms for transgender |
| 0:35.4 | people or abortion. These pundits say Democrats should instead focus on the material stuff, |
| 0:41.0 | kitchen table issues. I wrote this piece in the aftermath of the November election, but |
| 0:46.0 | it's still relevant today as liberals in the left try to figure out how to respond to |
| 0:50.1 | the moral panic over a critical race theory. So I'm going to try to give you a new way |
| 0:54.2 | of thinking about cultural politics. Lot of liberals and people on the left like to argue |
| 0:58.9 | that the culture war is something invented by conservatives to dupe people in the voting |
| 1:02.8 | against their interests. My argument to you is that the culture war is real and should |
| 1:07.5 | be taken seriously. So enjoy, and thanks for listening. |
| 1:11.8 | Autumn presents |
| 1:17.7 | What's the Matter with Cultural Politics written by Tommy Craigs? |
| 1:27.3 | Even while the votes were still rolling in, it had become axiomatic among the green |
| 1:31.6 | room set that Democrats had hurt themselves by focusing too much on cultural issues. |
| 1:37.7 | Surely you've heard the argument before, it arrives every four years on the button, |
| 1:42.1 | glib and overrot and covered in pancake makeup, like the Olympic gymnastics all around. |
| 1:48.6 | In their minds, Andrew Yang said on CNN two days after the election, |
| 1:53.0 | referring to the working class people he'd met on the trail during his bid for the Democratic |
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