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Everything You Never Knew About Squash And Pumpkins

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Science Friday and WNYC Studios

Science, Life Sciences, Wnyc, Natural Sciences, Friday

4.46.3K Ratings

🗓️ 26 November 2025

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Summary

It’s squash, pumpkin, and gourd season. In a conversation from 2023, an expert answers listener questions about these colorful fall favorites.

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0:00.0

Hello, it's Flora Lichten, and you're listening to Science Friday. Tis the season of squash.

0:09.8

So today on the podcast, we are bringing you a conversation from the pantry.

0:15.6

Ira is celebrating all things cucurbita and fielding your burning squash questions. Let's go.

0:23.7

Now, you can see squash everywhere, right, in this holiday season. You've got those carved pumpkins.

0:28.9

They're actually squash, believe it or not. Those giant award-winning pumpkins are squash, too.

0:34.7

How do they get so big? And what's the difference between a gourd and a squash? And how do you breed a

0:41.2

better squash? We actually have somebody who knows the answer to all of those things. Dr. Chris Hernandez,

0:47.3

assistant professor of plant breeding at the University of New Hampshire in Durham, New Hampshire.

0:51.9

He's director of the university squash, pumpkin, and melon breeding program.

0:56.5

Welcome to Science Friday. Hi, Ira. Thanks for having me on. How did you get interested in squash and

1:02.0

pumpkin breeding? Yeah, I suppose it's kind of a different type of profession. But yeah, you know,

1:08.1

my dad was really into gardening. He got me into gardening. And I was doing

1:12.0

some gardening at a community garden. And there was a guy there growing giant pumpkins. And I just

1:15.9

thought that was the coolest thing in the world. And it's what got me started. Kind of motivated me

1:20.7

to go on and study plant bringing genetics. I understand this year's world record for pumpkin was

1:25.8

nearly 3,000 pounds.

1:29.1

That's right, 2,700.

1:30.7

How do growers get pumpkins to grow so big?

1:34.6

Well, it's nature and nurture.

1:36.7

So you need to have the right seeds or the right, you know, the seeds that have that genetic potential.

1:42.0

And then you need to have the perfect growing conditions for those seeds

1:46.5

for that plant.

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