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What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Everything’s Coming Up Bari

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Slate

News, Daily News, News Commentary, Politics

4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 14 October 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Bari Weiss has had a successful media career by any metric, save perhaps for broad appeal. But as she takes over as the head of CBS News, the “mass” part of mass media doesn’t matter as much, and the new order of the day—pleasing a few angry old billionaires—is absolutely her sweet spot. Guest: David Klion, columnist for The Nation and contributing editor to Jewish Currents; author of a forthcoming book on neoconservatism. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, and Rob Gunther. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:36.9

There are a couple of ways to tell the story of how a 41-year-old, with no experience leading a broadcast news network, came to sit astride CBS News.

0:47.2

One story goes like this.

0:49.9

Barry Weiss, CBS's newly appointed editor-in-chief, rapidly built and expanded a news website, the free press, while journalistic outlets around her burned.

1:02.9

Executives at CBS rewarded her with a $150 million payout and a new title.

1:09.5

In exchange, she offered relevance to a dying industry.

1:15.1

Let me begin with some confessions. Also, she's a courageous truth teller.

1:21.4

I voted for Mitt Romney in 2012. And I voted for Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden, which is

1:26.7

shocking, I know.

1:28.5

This is the story Barry tells about herself, if you watch her speak, like at this TED Talk last year.

1:35.0

The point in all of this is that I am really boring, or at least I thought I was.

1:42.6

According to Barry, her point of view is Anodyne, standard issue liberal.

1:49.0

The difference right now is that the fringe seems to be calling the shots.

1:57.0

Which leads me to the other story you can tell about how Barry Weiss came to lead the so-called Tiffany News Network.

2:04.5

This story is less flattering, and it's the story David Cleon is interested in telling.

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