Everyone Wants This Kind of Love… Until It Costs Them Something

LOVERS by Shan

Lemonada Media

Relationships, Society & Culture, Health & Fitness, Sexuality

5.0 • 5.7K Ratings

🗓️ 20 May 2026

⏱️ 77 minutes

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Summary

Sex Is a Skill. Beducated is where you learn it. Join the world's largest sex school and access 150+ courses for curious adults: https://beduc.at/bg2621-boody Big love to the sponsor of this episode, Masterclass. Right now, our listeners get an additional 15% off any MasterClass annual membership at masterclass.com/lovers. ---------- In this episode of Lovers, I sit down with KevOnStage and Melissa Fredericks for a conversation about the kind of partnership most people admire from a distance… but might struggle to survive in real life. Before the success, before the tours, and before the platform, Melissa was the one carrying the financial weight of their household while Kev pursued stand-up comedy full time. She talks honestly about what it felt like to be the responsible one, why she chose not to weaponize money in their relationship, and how they built trust without keeping score. Together, they unpack the mindset that has shaped their marriage for years: if one person fails, both people fail. If one person wins, both people win. We also talk about resentment in long-term relationships, navigating major life transitions like perimenopause, giving your partner room to evolve, and why some of the choices that strengthened their marriage would look completely irrational to other couples. This episode challenges modern ideas around independence, partnership, sacrifice, gender roles, and what it actually means to build a life with someone instead of simply alongside them. If you’ve ever wondered what real partnership looks like behind the scenes, or questioned whether you’d actually be willing to make the sacrifices required for the kind of love you admire, this conversation is for you. Follow KevOnStage & Melissa Fredericks → Kev's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kevonstage → Melissa's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mrskevonstage/?hl=en → Website & Tour Dates: https://www.kevonstage.com → Watch Kev’s Shows & Comedy Content https://www.youtube.com/user/KevOnStage AND don’t miss the latest release from Kennedy Ryan upcoming novel Score → https://kennedyryanwrites.com/score/ Did you know Kennedy Ryan came on the podcast? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSJxZ-XzFck Want more Lover? Shan’s AI trained to give you her advice → http://loversbyshan.com Get a free weekly Love Letter → http://loversbyshan.com/newsletter Join the Lovers Community → https://www.loversbyshan.com/community Explore free quizzes + worksheets → http://loversbyshan.com/quizzes Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Lemonado
0:02.0	Changes in sexual performance are more common than most people realize, and support
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0:27.6	org slash podcast to learn more.
0:29.6	When was the last time you stopped and listened to your body? Here's a Holland and Barrett ad break to do just that.
0:36.6	Go on. Tune into your body's energy levels.
0:40.3	Is your brain struggling to focus?
0:42.3	Are you about to let out a midday yawn?
0:45.3	Or is your body crying out saying,
0:48.3	You've got to show me love.
0:52.3	We know what your body's asking for.
0:55.0	In store online on the app.
0:57.0	Back Your Body, Holland and Barrett.
1:00.0	Puberty to perimenopause, the Kevin List story.
1:04.0	Oh, I know who you are.
1:07.0	We get married for four years and all of a sudden,
1:10.0	I don't actually want to do none of this.
1:12.6	I'm sorry, what? That's not what I signed up for. I didn't marry a dreamer because I do remember, like, crying and being stressed.
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