Hello, everyone. You're listening to Family Talk, a radio broadcasting ministry of the James Dobson Family Institute.

I'm Dr. James Dobson, and thank you for joining us for this program.

Well, welcome to Family Talk. I'm Roger Marsh. Today we are joined once again by Mark and Jan

yokers, two everyday heroes who are helping couples take their marriages to new heights.

You know, like many of us, the yokers faced their share of challenges through the years,

but rather than settling for an ordinary marriage, Mark and Jan actively sought out resources,

attended seminars, and discovered principles that transformed their relationship in profound ways.

And of course, one of the men who had a huge impact on their marriage was our own Dr. James Dobson.

What makes their insights so especially compelling is their practical and down-to-earth approach.

So let's join our own Gary Bauer, senior vice president of public policy here at the James

Dobson Family Institute and host of the Defending Faith Family and Freedom podcast for this

inspiring conversation with Mark and Jan Yokers on today's edition of Family Talk.

We're pleased today on Family Talk to have another show with our everyday heroes, Mark and Jan

Yokers, who have been talking to us about their own marriage, but also about all the resources

out there and all the things they've learned over the years

so that your marriage can thrive and grow just as their marriage has over the decades.

Let's get right into it, Mark and Jan.

Absolutely. That would be awesome.

Yes, we'd love to share what God has done because it's been remarkable.

After struggling with scriptures, pro and con, I was thinking, and the heartache of everything

going on around us, the Lord came to me and totally broke me down with his truth and his love.

And he told me three things, Gary. He said, number one, go back to your

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