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The Hard Way w/ Joe De Sena

Every Parent With High School-Aged Kids Needs to Hear This / Joe De Sena & Gordon Caplan

The Hard Way w/ Joe De Sena

Spartan Races

Fitness, Alternative Health, Health & Fitness, 792700

4.7870 Ratings

🗓️ 14 September 2021

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Heard of the "Varsity Blues" college admission scandal? Maybe you've asked yourself "what were those people thinking?," or maybe you thought "does everybody do that?," or maybe you asked yourself "how far would I go if I thought it would help my kids?"

Gordon Caplan was one of those parents, and he tells Joe De Sena (CEO & Founder of Spartan) exactly what he was thinking, and what he learned from the experience and the deep thinking he did in jail. Every parent of a high school-age kid, and grandparents ... and anyone who works with them in school needs to listen closely to the lessons here. In part one of this interview, you'll hear what exactly happened, how it happened, why it happened, and what is wrong with the way 90% of the parents out there are thinking about their kids. Next week we publish part two, that's where you'll hear you can come back from even the most devastating blow.

Read more about Gordon Caplan’s story https://www.spartan.com/blogs/unbreakable-kids/gordon-caplan

Joe De Sena’s Parenting book “10 Rules for Mental Toughness for Families”

https://www.spartan.com/10Rules

The Tough Bible - the best information from Spartan Up all in one place

Spartan.com/toughbible

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CREDITS:

Producer – Marion Abrams, Madmotion.com

Host: Joe De Sena

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey guys I wanted to come on personally and tell you about this amazing podcast. I've done over 700

0:05.2

podcasts over the last five plus years. This one is special. This gentleman is named Gordon Kaplan.

0:11.5

He's become a good friend over the last couple of years.

0:14.0

And the reason it's special is it's tied to that story everybody heard about

0:20.0

unless you were living under a rock. Varsity Blue scandal. What happened there?

0:25.2

Well, a bunch of parents got excited, probably like we have as parents for the last

0:30.4

hundred years and we're going to do it for the next hundred years. We got excited about getting our kids into a good college.

0:37.0

And Gordon, famous lawyer, top of his game, I mean he was the chairman of the board,

0:43.6

number one deal maker in the United States, extremely wealthy, great family,

0:49.2

he crossed over the line.

0:51.2

He knew what was right and what was wrong, probably better than any of us, but

0:56.8

he stepped over the line for his child. And he paid the price. He ended up in jail. Like I said he lost his law firm. His entire life was gone.

1:09.2

There are moments he'll tell you where he didn't he didn't know how to continue and so this is a

1:15.0

special podcast for me because I'm a parent I've got four kids I would do anything

1:20.6

for my children as I know you would. I have a book coming out on parenting in four weeks and I'm

1:28.1

saying to myself, gee, did I get it right in the book because there's a lot of things I didn't consider after doing

1:34.3

this podcast with Gordon. Gordon could have went anywhere he could have been on 60

1:38.1

minutes with this story but because the Spartan community is so strong so forgiving because we teach resilience we teach how to bounce back he said

1:46.7

Joe I want to come on Spartan up and so there's gonna be a two-part series the guys

1:52.3

unbelievable he taught me a ton. I hope you get as much out of this as I did.

1:58.0

And let's be better parents. Let's be better humans. Let's do this.

2:05.2

Welcome to the Spartan Up podcast with Joe DeSena, founder and CEO of Spartan Race.

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