"evermore"

13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast

YEA Media Group

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4.8 • 1.2K Ratings

🗓️ 11 November 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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In this episode of 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast, Ana, Amy and Nick break down “evermore” — the beautiful closing track of Taylor Swift’s evermore album featuring Bon Iver and co-written with William Bowery (Joe Alwyn). We dive into Taylor’s emotional storytelling, the symbolism behind lyrics like “gray November” and “this pain would be forevermore,” and how the song captures the shared heaviness of 2020. The hosts unpack Taylor’s reflections on the 2016 fallout, her isolation during the pandemic, and how the song’s closing warmth — “floors of a cabin creaking under my step” — reminds us that healing and hope always return. They also discuss the poetic bridge with Bon Iver, the emotional shift from despair to peace, and the theory behind the “alternate endings” Taylor teased with right where you left me and it’s time to go. Join the 13 Podcast for this heartfelt episode as they close the book on evermore and prepare for Taylor’s alternate endings of this story with the evermore deluxe tracks.. Those breakdowns are coming up next! Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13 Contact the Podcast Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 Email: [email protected] Instagram: @the13podcast TikTok: @the13podcast Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Follow the Hosts Ana – @anaszabo13 Lacey – @laceygee13 Amy – @amysnichols Nick – @heynickadams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Yay Media Group
0:02.0	13 has been my lucky member for a while, like it's always a sign of good things to come for me.
0:09.7	This is 13, a Taylor Swift fan podcast, breaking down every song, every Easter egg, every era, and every theory.
0:19.7	Hosted by the biggest Swifties.
0:22.1	Nick Adams, Anna Zabo, Amy Nichols, and Lacey G.
0:27.9	Welcome to 13, a Taylor Swift fan podcast.
0:30.5	I'm Nick Adams.
0:31.1	I'm Anna. Amy.
0:33.1	And Lacey G is not here right now.
0:35.1	She is...
0:37.3	You know, when she was on her way here, the car in front of her got a flat tire and she's helping them fix the tire. Yep, she's changing it. She's helping them face the tire with someone she doesn't even know. Yeah, I heard it was an 18-wheeler's tire. Yeah. She can change that tire. Yeah, she's fixing 17 of them. What a great friend.
0:54.5	I know.
0:54.7	Great person.
0:55.3	Really incredible.
0:56.2	Mm-hmm.
0:56.5	So we miss you, Lacey.
0:57.7	There you guys.
0:58.3	That's where she normally sits.
0:59.4	Good deeds.
1:07.1	Always. Yeah, just out doing a good deed. Yeah. So it's a bummer. It's a bummer. but Lacey has to miss us breaking down Evermore.
1:08.4	I think she's actually,
1:09.4	I think we're actually bringing down.
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