Even Older Growth (Western Juniper 2)
Completely Arbortrary
Completely Arbortrary
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🗓️ 12 February 2026
⏱️ 95 minutes
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Summary
You’ve heard of old growth forest… but how about old growth woodland? For more info, ask the western juniper (Juniperus occidentalis), a tree that is helping to redefine the meaning of old growth. Then, we play a brand new game!
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| 0:00.0 | Hey everybody, Casey here. This is our fifth year making completely arbitrary. And to celebrate our |
| 0:06.8 | cone of the month for this month, December 2025, is actually five cones. That's right. We're making a |
| 0:14.1 | sticker sheet with five individual cones on it, one from every year we've been making this show. |
| 0:20.1 | And we want you to get them, which means |
| 0:22.0 | now is the best time to support the podcast at arbitrarypod.com. But we're not just leaving |
| 0:27.8 | into that. Right now, 760 of our dearest fungal associates are supporting the pod as |
| 0:33.1 | Tremium members. If we get to 800 subscribers by the end of 2025, then we're giving everyone a bonus sticker. |
| 0:42.2 | That's right. Every single supporter, regardless of the tier you're signed up for, if we get to 800, |
| 0:47.9 | everyone gets a bonus sticker. Now, to sweeten the deal even more, if you sign up now, this month only, |
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| 0:58.0 | And if you're currently a subscriber at the tree hugger level and you want that sticker sheet, |
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| 1:13.2 | to that tree lover in your life. Help us celebrate five years of completely arbitrary today. And |
| 1:18.5 | thank you so much. What's up, Fungal Associates? Welcome to Completely Arbitrary. This is the podcast about trees and other related topics. Why? Me? Huh. I'm only one of your hosts. My name is Alex Crozen. It is I your other host. Oh, my God. I'm Casey. You cut the line. I'm sorry. Usually I introduced you, but you introduced yourself. |
| 2:00.6 | I was panicked because I'm taking off a sweatshirt. I didn't know where you were going to start yet, and I was too hot. I kind of surprised Casey by starting the episode. And here we are. Okay, I'm ready. Welcome to completely arbitrary. My name is Casey Clap. Over there on the big green couch is Alex Crozen. Wait a second The big black chair |
| 2:01.5 | Oh my God |
| 2:02.2 | You're the one |
| 2:02.8 | On the big green couch |
| 2:03.4 | You're looking into a mirror My name is Casey Clap. Over there on the big green couch is Alex Crozen. Wait a second. The big black chair. |
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