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Hi, hello, and welcome back to even more news, the first and only news podcast.

My name is Katie Stoll.

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I'm Cody Johnston.

I urge our guest today to not fact-check that, but welcome to it.

We won't need to fact check that.

Today's guest is co-host of Left Reckoning and producer of the majority report.

We're very excited to welcome Matt Leck.

Thank you.

Very happy to be here. And actually, my first job in media was as a fact checker for a little outfit called full fact in the

UK chasing down anti-Brexit rumors about how the EU wanted to regulate how curved bananas

could be and that later became Brexit so wow you know that was my entrance into politics

yeah so fact checking maybe not always

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