Even More Classified Documents
The Lawfare Podcast
The Lawfare Institute
4.7 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 31 January 2023
⏱️ 47 minutes
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Summary
It seems like everyone has classified documents stashed away these days. First, it was Donald Trump, with the Justice Department investigation into documents stored improperly at Mar-a-Lago. Then, it was Joe Biden, with news that documents bearing classification markings were found at Biden’s Wilmington home and at the Penn Biden Center. And now, former Vice President Mike Pence has also uncovered classified materials at his home. What on earth is going on?
Lawfare senior editor Quinta Jurecic sat down with Lawfare editor-in-chief Benjamin Wittes, publisher David Priess, and senior editor Scott Anderson to discuss. They talked about why classified documents are suddenly showing up everywhere; how to understand the differences between the Trump, Biden, and Pence cases; and what to make of the pickle that Attorney General Merrick Garland now finds himself in.
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| 0:29.0 | Former President Trump, he is really distinguishable because of the obstruction factor. |
| 0:39.0 | As far as we know, I get maybe something more will come out. |
| 0:41.0 | But right now, he's the only one who appears to have quite willfully and seemingly quite deliberately, |
| 0:46.0 | or at least the staff around him, although it seems like he was personally involved as well, |
| 0:50.0 | in deliberately trying to withhold these documents and even lying about it to the Justice Department. |
| 0:55.0 | Those are the things that again, really problematic, I think that people understand our problematic |
| 1:00.0 | and that are ultimately going to bite him and it makes it easier to focus on those |
| 1:04.0 | if the broader problems about classified information are much more systemic. |
| 1:08.0 | I'm QuintedResick, senior editor at LawFair, and this is the LawFair podcast, |
| 1:14.0 | January 31st, 2023. |
| 1:17.0 | It seems like everyone has classified documents stashed away these days. |
| 1:22.0 | First, it was Donald Trump, with the Justice Department investigation |
| 1:26.0 | and to documents stored improperly at Mar-a-Lago. |
| 1:29.0 | Then it was Joe Biden, with news that documents bearing classification markings |
| 1:34.0 | were found at Biden's Wilmington home and at the Penn-Biden Center. |
| 1:38.0 | And now, former President Mike Pence has also uncovered classified materials at his home. |
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