Even Heretics Deserve Rituals! With Jeremy Steele

Data Over Dogma

Data Over Dogma Media, LLC

Society & Culture, History

4.7 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 11 May 2026

⏱️ 56 minutes

🔗️ Recording | iTunes | RSS

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

For as long as there have been humans, there have been rituals. Every religion and spiritual practice has developed its own set of practices and rites, and attached sacred meaning to them. But behind the theology and mysticism, is there something happening that even the non-religious could benefit from? This week, we welcome back Jeremy Steele to talk about his new book Rituals for Heretics, a guide to reclaiming ritual, meditation, and meaningful practices without needing to believe in magic, dogma, or blood sacrifice. We explore questions like: What happens when you take religion out of ritual? Can people who don't practice a religion use a modified version of their rituals anyway, or is that appropriation? Why is Dan B's brain so weird? And does sandwich hurling count as ritual? Get your copy of Rituals for Heretics here: https://jeremy-steele.com/store/p/all-the-best-questions-signed-and-personalized-hr8jh-99b8c-47lem ---- For early access to an ad-free version of every episode of Data Over Dogma, exclusive content, and the opportunity to support our work, please consider becoming a monthly patron at: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/DataOverDogma⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow us on the various social media places: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/DataOverDogmaPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.twitter.com/data_over_dogma⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Have you ordered Dan McClellan's New York Times bestselling book ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Bible Says So⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ yet??? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0	Have you ever gazed in wonder at the Great Pyramid? Have you marvelled at the golden face of Tudankhamun?
0:09.0	Or admired the delicate features of Queen Nefertiti? If you have, you'll probably like
0:15.2	The History of Egypt podcast. Every week, we explore tales of this ancient culture. The history of Egypt is available wherever you get your podcast. Every week, we explore tales of this ancient culture. The history of Egypt is available
0:23.3	wherever you get your podcasting fix. Come, let me introduce you to the world of ancient Egypt.
0:37.0	There's no reason that all of these things have to be controlled by a system that is trying to
0:45.3	bilk you out of money or tell you you're going to hell or whatever.
0:51.0	Like, we own this.
0:53.6	Humanity owns this.
1:01.0	Hey, everybody, I'm Dan McClellan. And I'm Dan Beecher.
1:04.1	And this is Data Over Dogma, where we increase public access to the academic study of the Bible and religion,
1:10.4	and we combat the spread of misinformation about the same.
1:13.9	How are things today, Dan?
1:15.6	Things are good here in Salt Lake City, but more importantly, things are going to be good in the D.C. metro area because we get to talk to a guest.
1:25.7	This is one of the rare instances of a returning champion.
1:30.2	Yes.
1:30.9	We mostly get turned down when we say, would you like to come back on the show?
1:34.6	Absolutely not.
1:35.4	I will never come back on the show.
1:37.2	No.
1:38.0	Today we have Jeremy Steele joining us to talk about his new book, which just, it's hot off the presses.
1:47.8	Hot of the presses.
1:49.4	Coming in hot and steamy.
	...

Transcript will be available on the free plan in 3 days. Upgrade to see the full transcript now.

Previous episode | Next episode

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Data Over Dogma Media, LLC, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of Data Over Dogma Media, LLC and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.