Even Better: Workplace equality 2.0

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Vox Media Podcast Network

Society & Culture, News, Politics, News Commentary, Philosophy

4.6 • 10.8K Ratings

🗓️ 11 August 2022

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Every Thursday in August, you'll hear Even Better on Vox Conversations, a special series focused on helping people live better lives individually and collectively. In the second episode, host Julia Furlan talks with author and CEO Minda Harts about how to fight for equality in the workplace. Harts’s work has focused on empowering people, particularly women of color, to find their voice and secure a seat at the table. Julia and Minda discuss the failures of "Lean In" to meaningfully address these issues, how to overcome common workplace obstacles and stereotypes, and how to achieve success through enrolling your coworkers and colleagues in the project of creating a truly equitable and respectful workplace. Host: Julia Furlan (@juliastmi) Guest: Minda Harts (@MindaHarts), author; founder and CEO of The Memo References: You Are More Than Magic: The Black and Brown Girls' Guide to Finding Your Voice by Minda Harts The Memo: What Women of Color Need to Know to Secure a Seat at the Table by Minda Harts Lean In: Women, Work, and the Will to Lead by Sheryl Sandberg Even Better is here to offer deeply sourced, actionable advice for helping you live a better life. Follow Even Better at vox.com/even-better. Enjoyed this episode? Rate Vox Conversations ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ and leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Subscribe for free. Be the first to hear the next episode of Vox Conversations by subscribing in your favorite podcast app. Support Vox Conversations by making a financial contribution to Vox! bit.ly/givepodcasts This episode was made by: Producer: Erikk Geannikis Editor: Amy Drozdowska Engineer: Patrick Boyd Deputy Editorial Director, Vox Talk: Amber Hall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hey, it's Sean Elling.
0:02.5	Maybe you heard.
0:03.5	I'll be taking over as the main host of Vox Conversations this fall, and I'm still
0:07.7	coming at you on Mondays until then.
0:10.3	But I wanted to let you know that this month we have something a bit different for you
0:13.7	in the feed on Thursdays.
0:15.4	It's a collaboration with our colleagues at Even Better, Vox's new section about our
0:20.0	individual and collective well-being.
0:22.2	I'm Julia Ferlan, and I'm your host for Even Better, a special series on Vox Conversations.
0:38.2	It has been long enough since the 2010s girl boss revolution for everybody to roll their
0:44.6	eyes at that old lean-in rhetoric.
0:48.0	You know, work extra hard, have it all, ignore the societal structures designed to exclude
0:53.5	you and just keep on achieving no matter what.
0:57.5	Looking back on all that, it's clear how myopic and privileged that entire conversation
1:02.2	was.
1:03.7	But you know, bad news about capitalism, it's still here and most people do need to work.
1:10.1	With that, the power dynamics of workplace culture haven't gone anywhere.
1:15.4	Only as we figure out what work even looks like after two and a half years of a global
1:19.4	pandemic.
1:20.7	A lot of things in the last couple years have been upended, which maybe means that there's
1:25.2	some room to imagine a better version of workplace dynamics.
1:30.5	My conversation today is with Minda Hartz, whose work finds pathways for young people of
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