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The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Even Better: Don't call it a budget

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Vox Media Podcast Network

Society & Culture, News, Politics, News Commentary, Philosophy

4.610.8K Ratings

🗓️ 25 August 2022

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Every Thursday in August, you'll hear Even Better on Vox Conversations, a special series focused on helping people live better lives individually and collectively. In the fourth and final episode, host Julia Furlan talks with financial planner Paco de Leon, author and illustrator of Finance for the People, an accessible, real-talk guide to taking control of your finances. They discuss why it can be emotional to talk about money, the difficult historical realities of financial planning usually avoided by most financial advice-givers, and some real, practical steps for how to face your financial fears and take control of your money — right now. Host: Julia Furlan (@juliastmi) Guest: Paco de Leon, author; illustrator; founder, The Hell Yeah Group References: Finance for the People: Getting a Grip on Your Finances (Penguin Life; 2022) Even Better is here to offer deeply sourced, actionable advice for helping you live a better life. Follow Even Better at vox.com/even-better. Enjoyed this episode? Rate Vox Conversations ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ and leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Subscribe for free. Be the first to hear the next episode of Vox Conversations by subscribing in your favorite podcast app. Support Vox Conversations by making a financial contribution to Vox! bit.ly/givepodcasts This episode was made by: Producer: Erikk Geannikis Editor: Amy Drozdowska Engineer: Patrick Boyd Deputy Editorial Director, Vox Talk: A.M. Hall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Support for today's show comes from Slack.

0:04.3

A digital HQ in Slack brings your teams, partners and tools together in one space.

0:10.0

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0:15.2

So work just works.

0:17.2

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0:18.6

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0:23.3

and even streamline partnerships with Slack Connect.

0:26.5

However you work, Slack is the flexible digital HQ for organised and efficient teams

0:32.4

no matter where they're logging in from.

0:34.5

Get started at slack.com slash DHQ.

0:38.1

Slack, where the future works.

0:44.8

Hey, it's Sean Elling.

0:46.8

Maybe you heard.

0:47.6

I'll be taking over as the main host of Vox Conversations this fall

0:51.6

and I'm still coming at you on Mondays until then.

0:54.5

But I wanted to let you know that this month we have something a bit different for you

0:58.2

in the feed on Thursdays.

1:00.2

It's a collaboration with our colleagues at Even Better.

1:03.0

Vox's new section about our individual and collective well-being.

1:07.9

I'm Julia Phrlon and I'm your host for Even Better,

1:10.9

a special series on Vox Conversations.

1:24.7

I don't know about you, but I have a very strong resistance to conversations about money.

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