Hi everyone, it's Carly. Before we get into the show today, I want to give a very warm welcome to

someone we haven't had on the show in a while, but who is back to nine to five ish full time after

being on paid family leave. Drumroll, please. It's Danielle. I was going to be really confused

if it was someone else. Hi guys, I'm so happy to be back. I have a special guest sitting on my lap

for this intro. Do you want to say hi? Oh, okay. Yes. You said, oh, doggy, he dropped his doggy.

I am thrilled to be back and to have some really great interesting conversations. Let's get into it.

So I never once thought this was a systemic issue. I never once said to myself, oh, Danielle maybe

suffering from the same thing. Like I wasn't thinking that way. I was just thinking I'm a complete

and resolute failure because I worked so hard for my degree and now I want to quit. I want to give up.

I'm Carly Zaken and I'm Danielle Weisberg. Welcome to nine to five ish with the skin.

We've run into so many questions over the years and had so many moments where we needed advice

and we got it from women who'd been there. And that's what we're bringing you with this show.

Each week we're helping you get what you want out of your career by talking to the smartest

leaders we know because we know your work life is a lot more than nine to five. All right, let's get

into it. Hi, everyone. Today our guest is New York Times best-selling author Eve Rodzki.

After attending Harvard Law School, Eve spent the first few years of her career as a corporate lawyer.

But eventually she found that her true passion was in philanthropy and she spent more than a decade

advising families and foundations on their philanthropic efforts at JP Morgan and at her own company

Philanthropy Advisory Group. Aside from her philanthropy work, Eve is best known as the

author of Fair Play, which teaches couples how to rebalance the unequal and often invisible labor

done at home. Eve published another book in 2021 called Find Your Unicorn Space, which

goes a step further than Fair Play. It teaches women how to regain satisfaction in their lives by

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