Hi, I'm Zibi Owens, and you're listening to the Webby-nominated podcast, Moms don't have time to read books.

This episode has been sponsored by Lauren Gabrielson, which is a women's wear brand that creates elevated essentials for the modern women's wardrobe.

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that are customized to her body, her time, and her style.

And by the way, I have two Lauren Gabrielson headbands, which I wear all the time. And you can see in my photos on my events page because I wear them everywhere. And they're amazing. And actually my six-year-old daughter steals mine all the time. So anyway, Lauren Gabrielson.com. I'm so excited to be here today with Eve Rodski, who's the author of Fairplay, A game-changing solution for when you have too much to do and more life to live.

Eve received her BA in economics and anthropology from the University of Michigan and her JD from Harvard Law School,

a former J.P. Morgan philanthropy expert. She went on to found the philanthropy advisory group, which advises high net worth families and foundations on best practices and more.

Eve was raised by a single mom in New York City and now lives in Los Angeles with her husband and three children.

Also, in her work with hundreds of families over a decade,

she realized that her expertise in family mediation, strategy, and organizational management

could be applied to a problem closer to home, a system for couples seeking balance, efficiency,

and peace in their home. And this book has already completely changed my life. So welcome, Eve.

Thank you for coming. Oh, so great to be here with you. I said that before. I'm getting emotional.

Even I were, even I were just chatting before I turned this on and already crying. So, you know.

It's a good place to start. It's a good place to start.

It's a good place to start.

Authentic feelings.

I was telling Eve that I've read a lot of books.

There's been a lot of press and books and literature and everything on this whole very of the moment concept of invisible labor and mental load and all these things that women basically shoulder.

And Eve's book, for me, just woke me up in a whole different way.

And I don't know if it was the combination of your academic type research,

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