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cult, extreme belief and the abuse of power from two demons who've actually experienced it,

I'm Lowell Blanc. And I'm Megan Elizabeth. Today, our guest is filmmaker Evan McNairry talking to

us about his childhood in an exorcism-focused church. He's gonna tell us about growing up believing

in demons and helping with church exorcisms and what it was like to have people who he believed

were possessed coming to stay with his family. We'll also get into the next church's family

joined in which people would laugh or scream together for hours on end and how he came to leave

religion plus the possible benefits of exorcism like rituals and the ways in which a world with less

and less religion is a double-edged sword. That's right. Before we get into it, I'm just feeling

listen, I'm feeling agitated today. Before we get into it, Megan, what's your cult deals thing?

Oh man. Okay, this takes place in I believe Africa, I got Nigeria. They just rescued 77 people from

a dungeon in Nigeria. 26 kids actually and it's because they said that Jesus was coming back so

they wanted these people to be safe in a dungeon. Yeah. Oh my gosh. And was there like a leader?

This was from the whole Bible believers church. There was a prophet telling them that Jesus is about

to come back. Pastor Josiah, he assumed so he's an assistant pastor but he told the members that

the rapture will take place in April but now it's been changed to September so don't worry,

it's still for sure happening. Oh my gosh. We've said it a million times but like

this is like prime time for end times cult because everything feels so. I mean, you got climate change,

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