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Evan Gershkovich, Prisoner Swaps and Hostage Diplomacy: The Big Questions

WSJ What’s News

The Wall Street Journal

Daily News, News

4.14.2K Ratings

🗓️ 4 August 2024

⏱️ 14 minutes

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Summary

Wall Street Journal reporter Evan Gershkovich and 15 other prisoners were released from Russia and Belarus last week in the most complex prisoner swap since the Cold War. The exchange is being heralded as a triumph of international cooperation, but it is also painting a stark picture of Russia’s willingness to detain innocent Westerners to use as bargaining chips. WSJ’s Paul Beckett and Bojan Pancevski explain how autocrats are using hostage-taking to send a message, and the tactics some countries are considering as a means to stop it. Luke Vargas hosts. Sign up for the WSJ's free What's News newsletter. Further Reading: Autocrats Wield Hostage-Taking as Potent Weapon Against West The Dark Figure at the Center of Putin’s Prisoner-Swap Demands How Germany Enabled a Historic Hostage Swap With Russia Putin Rolls Out Red Carpet for Hackers, Smugglers and Spies Released in Prisoner Swap Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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It's Sunday August 4th.

0:25.2

I'm Luke Vargas for the Wall Street Journal, and this is What's News Sunday, the show where

0:28.9

we tackle the big questions about the biggest stories in the news by reaching out to our colleagues across the

0:33.6

newsroom to help explain what's happening in our world. And this week

0:36.8

securing the release of journal reporter Evan Gerschkovic and 15 other prisoners

0:42.0

from Russia and Belarus required the most complex

0:45.2

prisoner swap in a generation, a triumph of multilateral diplomacy,

0:49.4

and a vindication of months of intense public and behind-the-scenes efforts by the journal and others.

0:55.6

But what message does the deal send to autocrats who increasingly embrace a strategy of hostage

1:01.6

diplomacy? Let's get to it.

1:03.2

With me now to look at the forces required to pull off a prisoner swap of the

1:07.9

sort we've just witnessed last week and consider what precedent it sets. I'm joined from New York by Wall Street Journal

1:14.2

assistant editor Paul Beckett and from Berlin by chief European political

1:18.7

correspondent Bojan Panchevsky. Paul let me start with you. You have been working to secure Evans

1:24.3

release now for more than a year. Broadly speaking, what's needed to negotiate a

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