Now, as far as the answer to the riddle, which is, hey, how come Leon Rose gave Tom Thibodeau an extension to then turn around and fire him, especially if he had been on the hot seat multiple times, according to Ian Begley, I think the answer is pretty simple.

I think that when Leon Rose hired Tom Thibodeau was always going to be awkward because Tom was represented by Leon Rose.

Like, I have an agent. If my agent became the program director or the boss here or somewhere

else and I went there, there would be that awkwardness of, well, if you know, I may have to fire

you at some point if you're not successful. Right. Even if I really like you. Even if I like you.

And so what I assume is when Leon hired Tom, he said, look, this is a business where you're

likely going to get fired because that's just the way it is, especially in coaching more so

than anywhere else.

You're hired to be fired.

You said it earlier, Tiki.

How many coaches just get to go out on their own?

I mean, look at our own town. You said it earlier, Tiki. How many coaches just get to go out on their own?

I mean, look at our own town.

Joe Torrey as a manager, Tom Cawthon as a head coach, did not go out on their own.

Right.

They're two of the most successful guy.

Told you were done.

Yes.

Multiple champions.

Championships told you're done.

And not in classy ceremonial ways.

They tried, but... Kind of like...

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