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🗓️ 1 May 2023
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0:00.0 | The Bill, our regular followers, are a no stranger to Dr. Clark Irman, a New Testament scholar |
0:19.0 | focusing on textual criticism, the historical Jesus, the origins, and development of early |
0:24.2 | Christianity. He rejected his faith in Christ and has become a vocal critic of Christianity. |
0:32.0 | We have some excerpts from a recent debate that he had on the resurrection of Jesus with |
0:36.4 | Dr. Justin Bass, a New Testament scholar and author from the Dallas area. Primarily, we |
0:42.8 | want to see what Bart Irman is saying these days, and if it's changed much, since you debated |
0:49.4 | him on the resurrection in 2006. I can't believe it was that long ago. What are some of your |
0:57.0 | recollections about that debate, Bill? The debate was at Holy Cross out in Massachusetts, and I prepared |
1:07.8 | extensively for this debate because I was convinced that what Bart Irman was offering as his |
1:16.1 | objection to believe in the resurrection of Jesus was nothing more than a warmed over version |
1:23.4 | of David Hume's 18th century argument against miracles. And so I explained to the students that |
1:31.4 | this argument is demonstrably fallacious because Hume didn't have the probability calculus at that |
1:40.3 | time. That was developed later. And so Hume's argument against the probability of identifying an |
1:47.3 | event as a miracle is hopeless. It's demonstrably incorrect. And so I explained to the students using |
1:56.0 | PowerPoint slides, based theorem, and how you would calculate the probability of an event like |
2:03.3 | the resurrection. And then I exposed two errors. As I recall, they were called Bart's blunder and Irman's |
2:11.2 | egregious error. And showed that he was simply offering the same invalid argument as Hume. And I was |
2:21.6 | shocked at his response, Kevin. It became evident that he wasn't even familiar with the work of David Hume, |
2:29.8 | much less arguments against miracles. And that he thought I was offering a mathematical proof of |
2:36.9 | the existence of God. He said, you can't prove God mathematically. And then launched off on rhetorical |
2:47.8 | exploits. You could tell that Bart Irman used to be a preacher because the remainder of the debate |
2:55.4 | it was basically preaching, yelling and lots of rhetoric and never came to grips with the argument. |
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