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The Duran Podcast

Europe's Drone Escalation Gamble Is Spinning Out of Control

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🗓️ 19 May 2026

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Europe's Drone Escalation Gamble Is Spinning Out of Control

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0:00.0

All right, Alexander, let's talk about what is happening in Ukraine and with the war between Russia and Ukraine and Ukraine in the collective West because things are escalating, at least with regards to the drone strikes.

0:14.8

So we had big drone strikes into Moscow the other day. This is in retaliation to the Russian, big strikes into Ukraine

0:25.3

and specifically into Kiev. Some reports put those Russian strikes at those drones into Ukraine

0:31.9

at 800. Other reports at 1,500. The strikes into Moscow the other day were over 500, 560, some reports claim

0:43.3

drones into the Moscow region. What are your thoughts on what is happening with the drone

0:51.1

escalation? And we have all kinds of fighter jets scrambling in Latvia,

0:56.8

all over the place once again, which hints at something more than just drones from Zeletsky.

1:06.0

Right. Well, the first thing to say is that you've actually identified the right word.

1:11.3

It is escalation.

1:13.4

It is of a major escalation in the whole mood around this conflict with signs that we are now starting to see a situation where it could all be spiraling out of control, when it's spiraling

1:29.0

out of control, that it might start to expand beyond Ukraine. And when the Europeans are, despite,

1:38.8

you know, this narrative about Ukraine winning, that they're beginning to become not simultaneously very panicky and very aggressive.

1:50.0

Now, this is a huge drone attack about Ukraine on Moscow, far in a way the biggest.

1:56.0

And I think there's a number of explanations for this. Firstly, I think it was an attack that was planned for the 9th of May.

2:03.4

I think what we have seen with this drone attack was the drone attack that Ukraine intended to launch on the 9th of May on Moscow, which the Russians warned about, Trump basically blocked by declaring

2:23.2

a ceasefire. A week has passed. The Ukrainians have added and manufactured and the Europeans and the

2:32.8

Europeans have manufactured more drones.

2:37.2

And they launched an even bigger attack than the one they would have launched on the 9th of May.

2:43.2

But this is what they, this is what they did.

2:45.6

And I think it's here important to say that the Russian attack, the big Russian attack which preceded it,

2:51.6

clearly also was bigger than usual in part because the Russians manufactured more get-ound drones during the ceasefire.

3:04.5

And that meant that they could launch them all together.

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